501: Torsional Rigidity Check
22 Sep 2022A mountain of follow-up and our iPhone 14 Pro thoughts so far.
Episode Description:
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- Pre-show:
- Relay FM Feuding Families
- ATP Movie Club: Episode 2: The Rundown
- Remember, only for members!
- Casey’s traumatic moment, captured
- Follow-up:
- Apple Pay and “valid” addresses
- iPhone 14 has revised, easily-repairable internals
- John’s second iPhone case
- Marco’s case updates
- Casey’s on the HDHomeRun Prime with Channels Train
- Glasses updates
- Blue-blocking lenses were universally panned
- Zenni Optical
- Apple’s upgrade guide (via Jonathan Gulbrandsen)
- iPhones 14 Pro Experience
- Post-show:
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Chapters
- Relay FM Feuding Families
- Donate to St. Jude
- Movie Club: The Rundown (2003)
- Sponsor: Trade Coffee
- Follow-up: Apple Pay addresses
- iPhone 14 repairability design
- US iPhone 14s have SIM spacer
- iPhone 14 Pro cases
- Sponsor: Linode
- Casey’sCableCard
- Blue-blocking glasses
- Apple’s iPhone upgrade guide
- Sponsor: Kolide
- Our iPhones 14 Pro
- Apple Watch Series 8
- Special ending theme
- Car-watch 🖼️
Relay FM Feuding Families
⏹️ ▶️ Casey i participated and this is actually an italian to our other part of the price but i participated
⏹️ ▶️ Casey in the podcast athon the relay of podcast athon for saint to raise money
⏹️ ▶️ Casey for saint jude we’re going to talk more about that in a moment and as part of that myself and a handful of other relay
⏹️ ▶️ Casey hosts played a relay fm feuding families and we played you know
⏹️ ▶️ Casey a game that might be like a television show you may have seen we had various questions some of which i was prepared for
⏹️ ▶️ Casey some of which i was not the final question in the feuding families however was something
⏹️ ▶️ Casey that was quite funny and i have to ask marco let me start with you did you happen to have the chance
⏹️ ▶️ Casey to see this segment of the what was it six hour eight hour eight hour podcast athon sadly i did not
⏹️ ▶️ Casey okay well you you miss you missed a true jam i mean the whole thing was great you should watch all of it but this in particular
⏹️ ▶️ Casey was excellent the final question just to finish this up is a name something
⏹️ ▶️ Casey that is important or that i particular note name something that john syracuse hears about
⏹️ ▶️ Casey and imagine me just losing it when that question was asked because of the three of
⏹️ ▶️ Casey us i was the only one participating in the feuding families i was rolling listening
⏹️ ▶️ Casey to that question the answers if you would like to be spoiled and we will put a time stamping
⏹️ ▶️ John i think you might have to explain the premise of family feud briefly
⏹️ ▶️ Casey well i don’t know what family feud is about because this
⏹️ ▶️ Casey, John definitely not distinct yes
⏹️ ▶️ Casey definitely distinct but the idea with feuding families is the relay listeners
⏹️ ▶️ Casey and anyone really could participate with really is listeners filled out like a survey basically and and filled out
⏹️ ▶️ Casey free form answers to several different questions then jason snell or our
⏹️ ▶️ Casey game master if you will a dungeon master since i lost actually i was very sad but anyway
⏹️ ▶️ Casey jason as our game master would assemble these i think perhaps some other people helped him but would assemble
⏹️ ▶️ Casey these answers and pick the top several and the amount of people that wrote in that
⏹️ ▶️ Casey answer would is the amount of points you earn for for guessing that answer and there’s two teams
⏹️ ▶️ Casey and and one and each team would make a guess and whichever team had the higher
⏹️ ▶️ Casey guess this is well this is not exactly how it worked but basically whoever whichever team make the higher guest gets to try
⏹️ ▶️ Casey to name all the different options and if they succeed they get all the points if they don’t
⏹️ ▶️ Casey name all the options if they have three raw incorrect answers then the other team gets a
⏹️ ▶️ Casey chance and if they name any of the remaining options they steal all the points and so we
⏹️ ▶️ Casey had in this case one two three four five six available answers to what does john syracuse
⏹️ ▶️ Casey care about and i was curious john what your thoughts were i will go through the list
⏹️ ▶️ John but actually did marco already play yourself by looking at the show nuts no i do not
⏹️ ▶️ John all right well so margo should margot should play the game
⏹️ ▶️ Casey, John perfect thank you what
⏹️ ▶️ Casey does john syracuse to care about
⏹️ ▶️ John i remember the trick about this game and all and family feud that was on tv or whatever is it doesn’t
⏹️ ▶️ John matter what the actual answer is it only matters what people filled out the survey said so if you if the survey
⏹️ ▶️ John was like name or fruit like most people would like pick apple or something as their number one record it’s the first thing that
⏹️ ▶️ John comes to mind so you have to guess what most people said in the answer to this question
⏹️ ▶️ John not what i actually care about right
⏹️ ▶️ Marco so i’m going to say i mean this might be too broad but italian food
⏹️ ▶️ Marco, Casey not on the list are you
⏹️ ▶️ Marco able to tell me like is a particular one like tomato sauce like i like is that just too
⏹️ ▶️ John like the game family feud and jason s host are both very generous in
⏹️ ▶️ John terms of letting you get close there is nothing even close to that i hear so
⏹️ ▶️ John note that italian food is analyst i we should do the thing that they do in the show that this is legally
⏹️ ▶️ John distinct from and the jason does much as you do survey says show me italian food and then
⏹️ ▶️ John ex comes because you didn’t get it all right i can’t believe you’re doing this badly cause note you don’t
⏹️ ▶️ John have any of the six you just have to pick one of the top six italian food
⏹️ ▶️ John i mean that’s a reasonable guess because these are people filling out a survey so many of them might not even know
⏹️ ▶️ John who i am but the ones that do probably know i who i am from listening to podcasts
⏹️ ▶️ Casey, John joy so now you getting in
⏹️ ▶️ Casey now we’re getting somewhere
⏹️ ▶️ Marco all right so i’m just going to keep going until you lose or guess all six
⏹️ ▶️ Marco right okay so yeah all right i’m going to go with apple
⏹️ ▶️ John not on the list i’m not going to give you that one jason was very generous with this choice in the show but no apple is not on the list
⏹️ ▶️ John good good guess though but
⏹️ ▶️ Marco not so one of the things i thought of was movies but i wonder if that’s included in well television’s a hardware
⏹️ ▶️ Marco thing alright im goin to say movies no is
⏹️ ▶️ Casey, Marco as you no that’s too
⏹️ ▶️ Marco all right follow up
⏹️ ▶️ John doing so badly at this game i can remember not to be on feuding families with marco my team
⏹️ ▶️ John you are on a show with me the place people would know me from is listen to me on
⏹️ ▶️ John podcast all right forget about the game marco name a bunch of stuff that i’m known for in the show just rattle
⏹️ ▶️ Marco mean you make really good arguments
⏹️ ▶️ Marco, John that all are you
⏹️ ▶️ Marco, John about you know the macro right all right say
⏹️ ▶️ Casey it will give you i’ll give you half credit for the mac pro because
⏹️ ▶️ Casey, John the something having to do with the mac is
⏹️ ▶️ John, Marco a good man i would say yeah pro
⏹️ ▶️ Marco um i mean you’re all about pearl
⏹️ ▶️ Marco, John that’s a good guess that was good i
⏹️ ▶️ John just missed the list but that’s a good
⏹️ ▶️ Marco one yeah um there’s of course file systems
⏹️ ▶️ John that’s on the list that’s number six all right all right
⏹️ ▶️ John, Marco you’re the one
⏹️ ▶️ John who rings the bell you didn’t guess file systems all right
⏹️ ▶️ John, Marco go now greater
⏹️ ▶️ John better you’re doing now that you’re not like in whatever mental state you’re in for the game
⏹️ ▶️ Marco um let’s see other things i mean if it isn’t just limited this show you definitely care a
⏹️ ▶️ Marco lot about secret british people but
⏹️ ▶️ Marco, Casey that’s true that’s
⏹️ ▶️ Marco, John only reason develop people wouldn’t
⏹️ ▶️ John have known that i mean you’re doing okay here but like let’s just since you’re already lost let’s
⏹️ ▶️ John tell you the other one’s toasters number two oh yeah come on
⏹️ ▶️ John no that’s not that’s not recent but you remember your serving of a bunch of people who may have her listen to the podcast
⏹️ ▶️ John with me on it like once a long time ago toasters
⏹️ ▶️ John number two these bears number three number four you probably would
⏹️ ▶️ Casey excuse me number four i believe that was my pick if memory serves
⏹️ ▶️ John are going to have your turn in a second not number for his fan noise i mean true yeah
⏹️ ▶️ Marco that’s what i think i guess things that are way more prominent than that
⏹️ ▶️ John yeah but that’s that’s the secret of
⏹️ ▶️ John, Marco that’s the secret of the game also here’s
⏹️ ▶️ John what you should have done casey because as you noted in earlier rounds sometimes the rounds were sort of focused
⏹️ ▶️ John on particular people’s expertise like they a had a question about microsoft stores one team had a one
⏹️ ▶️ John maybe two microsoft employees that’s unfair there was a pokemon question obviously there were people
⏹️ ▶️ John with varying degrees of pokemon expertise which may have helped to hurt them but in the question about me
⏹️ ▶️ John you are the expert case you’re right there your anapa asked me all the time you could have guessed all these is just
⏹️ ▶️ John a question of narrowing it down it’s like you were in the position of the pokemon people they know all the
⏹️ ▶️ John just a question of narrowing it down you didn’t listen to jason earlier when he said hey when your
⏹️ ▶️ John team has their turn you can if you want rattle off a bunch of things that you’re thinking
⏹️ ▶️ John of knowing full well that you’re giving hints to the other team because if you named three things right and
⏹️ ▶️ John you and your team loses the other team can just name those things that you that you listed right but
⏹️ ▶️ John you knew your team didn’t know me that well i think one of the people didn’t even know me at all right so you should have
⏹️ ▶️ John given them other choices to choose from especially when you had zero strikes said okay team i know you guys
⏹️ ▶️ John don’t know john as well as i do so what i’m thinking of is cheese graters toasters
⏹️ ▶️ John and file systems and i know they sound weird to you but those are three valid
⏹️ ▶️ Marco instantly lunged for the bell
⏹️ ▶️ John again right and so that you could have sent fan noise and then that was correct and then
⏹️ ▶️ John the rest of your team would have had three easy choices instead of coming up with the wrong answers that they came up because they have
⏹️ ▶️ Casey so i’m presently i wish i had saved this i thought i had scanned it but i didn’t i’m rifling through my garbage oh here it
⏹️ ▶️ Casey is let me see what i actually wrote down during the recording because i was taking notes for
⏹️ ▶️ Casey myself or here we go what do i have here i have i can’t even read my own writing a
⏹️ ▶️ Casey noise slash fans file systems cars movies sprite cheese graters
⏹️ ▶️ Casey this was in no particular order by the way a redundancy i think with regard to back up the
⏹️ ▶️ Casey, John back up someone
⏹️ ▶️ John to guess and i can’t believe that wasn’t on the list as jason noted jason said i think john cares more about that than is
⏹️ ▶️ John represented in this survey and
⏹️ ▶️ Casey game controllers which i think marco would mention
⏹️ ▶️ Casey what is this say oh simpsons and pop culture references that was that was my list of items
⏹️ ▶️ John tails off pretty quickly but this is a reasonable topic
⏹️ ▶️ Casey say you you dingy approve or you just straight up
⏹️ ▶️ John approve so let’s if we had to do it from marco ready i’m going to do margo here let’s
⏹️ ▶️ John would i say that the survey people would say i would say um
⏹️ ▶️ Marco how am i supposed to judge this cause like we don’t have those sort of results
⏹️ ▶️ John i know i know but i you just got a name like things that people would know about you a things
⏹️ ▶️ John i care about yeah right i mean
⏹️ ▶️ Marco fish yep that’s way up there i mean i put it in the header of our website for god’s sake
⏹️ ▶️ Casey i love the three answers on the chat room consistently between the three of them spending
⏹️ ▶️ John they probably might there might have been something about that in there but fish throw in there um
⏹️ ▶️ John some people might say php just because it’s one of the things you’re known for
⏹️ ▶️ John i wouldn’t say i care that much i
⏹️ ▶️ John but it’s like what do people associate with you fancy watches maybe i have
⏹️ ▶️ John fallen out of that yeah what’s what would people say what if they have to like what’s on
⏹️ ▶️ John their index card for marco new york spending money no headphones oh yeah that’s this
⏹️ ▶️ Casey pittsburgh is a deep cut i don’t think that would be on the top list
⏹️ ▶️ Marco loved living there but that was a long time
⏹️ ▶️ John ago and there would be the difficult one is finding like the apple related stuff would people say iphone
⏹️ ▶️ John would they say the mac you know like
⏹️ ▶️ John, Marco right that’s why i kind of went with apple
⏹️ ▶️ John right you know is right stuff like that podcasting podcasts something like
⏹️ ▶️ Casey somebody said somebody said cars and i reject that because
⏹️ ▶️ Casey drives an appliance now he doesn’t drive a car anymore
⏹️ ▶️ Marco i will say i i’d had quite a lot of time in that appliance today and i uh i really
⏹️ ▶️ Marco quite enjoyed it well i guess he’s he’s talking about a test isn’t he
⏹️ ▶️ Marco, Casey sorry i missed
⏹️ ▶️ Marco it i was in the land rover all day which now by the way wears a watch but that’s a separate story
⏹️ ▶️ Casey the land rover wears the wat
⏹️ ▶️ Casey i do want to unpack this at some point in the future
⏹️ ▶️ Casey, Marco we’ll get to it in the watch
⏹️ ▶️ Marco in the watch is discussion later
⏹️ ▶️ John oh perfect okay i then i guess marco you do casey now
⏹️ ▶️ Marco no he’s got to get away with you how does somebody do this for me not mention
⏹️ ▶️ Marco fire around and dogs
⏹️ ▶️ John dogs who doesn’t love the oh i like babies i mean okay sure
⏹️ ▶️ John do you like dogs more than i like dogs we both have one dog and
⏹️ ▶️ John, Marco i’ve one more dog in with you
⏹️ ▶️ Marco i’ve seen well let’s see i i you like babies more than i do for
⏹️ ▶️ Casey there’s not a human that likes babies more than john
⏹️ ▶️ Marco i think i like dogs more but it’s a it’s a close call because you
⏹️ ▶️ Marco, John also love dogs so you know
⏹️ ▶️ John everybody loves dogs who doesn’t love dogs
⏹️ ▶️ John, Marco a lot of people i don’t know how they survive yeah
⏹️ ▶️ Marco like what is what is their joy in life if not for dogs and i
⏹️ ▶️ John was trying to do from a survey respective like people might not know that much about you but
⏹️ ▶️ John it’s not like we talk about you know you mention your dog but it’s not like you spend a lot of time dwelling on it on the show or
⏹️ ▶️ John whatever so what what’s case like then again these are the survey answers people with cars
⏹️ ▶️ John number one cars like that so i don’t know if that be number one think one might be led
⏹️ ▶️ John, Casey eva will be on the list
⏹️ ▶️ Casey see the thing is i actually don’t care about velveeta as that i
⏹️ ▶️ Casey, John now what it’s brought on your index but
⏹️ ▶️ Casey i a thousand percent agree that it would end up on the
⏹️ ▶️ John it’s like it’s odd and it’s a thing it’s a thing that’s associated with though i completely agree completely agree
⏹️ ▶️ Marco i’m going to say fatherhood although i appreciate that that’s kind to me it may be because you know in part
⏹️ ▶️ Marco because you know you are super into it now but even before you were a father you were basically
⏹️ ▶️ Marco you are like the worst you were constantly emitting dad jokes and you know
⏹️ ▶️ Marco, John big dada bad energy
⏹️ ▶️ John, Casey bad jokes i think so i’ll still take it as you’re
⏹️ ▶️ John not a dad that just call them bad jokes once you become a dad you have a new name for it but it’s the same humor
⏹️ ▶️ Casey i and take that i don’t know how that was mad but i’m going to take it as a compliment so we can we can go
⏹️ ▶️ Marco with the i’d also got a throw in plex
⏹️ ▶️ Marco, Casey plex is would be it’s a good one
⏹️ ▶️ Casey but the vibra slap is for synology right
⏹️ ▶️ John and you know you have to think of yourself as a character on a tv show so you’re looking for like catch phrases or things that
⏹️ ▶️ John come up not necessarily things that are actually the most important to you that you care about but just that are odd enough that people would
⏹️ ▶️ John remember them and associate with him so like case he’s not super into you know but because we talk about it and we both
⏹️ ▶️ John don’t like it and he does it becomes associated with him so
⏹️ ▶️ John, Marco anyway you know i was a little game
⏹️ ▶️ John theory in case you’re ever on feuding families which is legally distinct from family feud
Donate to St. Jude
⏹️ ▶️ Casey oh my word all right so why did we play feuding families thank you john that that one direction
⏹️ ▶️ Casey i was not expecting but that was fun why did we play feuding families well like i mentioned earlier it was because that
⏹️ ▶️ Casey we were trying to raise money for saint jude children’s research hospital so here’s the thing you
⏹️ ▶️ Casey have at least one dollar probably more than one but at least one and they would like to
⏹️ ▶️ Casey accept that dollar and put it to good use and maybe maybe that one dollar
⏹️ ▶️ Casey will be the one dollar that just tips them over the edge and being able to
⏹️ ▶️ Casey fund the cure for childhood cancer yeah it may not happen but you never know you never
⏹️ ▶️ Casey know it could be your one dollar so here’s the thing you’ve got a dollar maybe several maybe hundreds
⏹️ ▶️ Casey maybe even thousands and they would like to accept that one several or hundreds or thousands
⏹️ ▶️ Casey at saint jude dot org slash at p s t j u d e d dot org slash at p
⏹️ ▶️ Casey and if you can and if you would like you can throw a little bit of money towards saint jude children’s research
⏹️ ▶️ Casey hospital why saint jude you ask well thank you for asking it it’s because their mission
⏹️ ▶️ Casey which has been going on for sixty years is to have no child
⏹️ ▶️ Casey pass away from childhood cancer and they have made tremendous tremendous strides in these last
⏹️ ▶️ Casey sixty years i don’t have the figures in front of me but they’ve they’ve absolutely flipped the ratios
⏹️ ▶️ Casey from being absolutely terrible to at least ok which is a humongous
⏹️ ▶️ Casey improvement if not actually good so they are working tirelessly to try to
⏹️ ▶️ Casey end childhood cancer the research that they do they share with the world so this isn’t just an american thing
⏹️ ▶️ Casey yes the american health care system is utterly and and probably forever broken but that’s
⏹️ ▶️ Casey not the only thing that saint ju does they help all of their families even even international families
⏹️ ▶️ Casey and they share all their research and they do this without charging families a dime which is really incredible
⏹️ ▶️ Casey especially here in america so please go to saint jude dot org slash at p and throw
⏹️ ▶️ Casey a little bit of money their way also i would like to do a little bit of quick follow up with regard to saint jude a gillam
⏹️ ▶️ Casey has been located and stickers have already been dispatched in fact they may have already arrived he
⏹️ ▶️ Casey he was the individual is as far as i know the individual leader for individual donations
⏹️ ▶️ Casey and we still also want to send one more thanks to the fine folks of one password who are far and away
⏹️ ▶️ Casey the group leaders but gillum was the individual leader so thank you and stickers
⏹️ ▶️ Casey have been dispatched already like i said probably already there so saint you do reach tp
Movie Club: The Rundown (2003)
⏹️ ▶️ Casey that being said we have one more piece of housekeeping we also have another episode of
⏹️ ▶️ Casey t p movie club for members if you are not a member you can go to tp f m slash
⏹️ ▶️ Casey join and you can become a member and you will get all of the episodes of p movie club we are going to do three
⏹️ ▶️ Casey there are there is one already released by the time you hear this there will probably a be a second and
⏹️ ▶️ Casey this time it is my turn to pick a movie and we spent some time on the episode discussing
⏹️ ▶️ Casey why i picked this movie if i’m not mistaken we recorded a it a couple of weeks ago now but believe we did if
⏹️ ▶️ Casey if we need to we can cover that another time but suffice to say i did not choose
⏹️ ▶️ Casey whatever one expected the hunt for october and instead i chose the what is it two thousand
⏹️ ▶️ Casey three i should have this in front of me i think it’s two thousand three a classic absolute classic
⏹️ ▶️ Casey starring dwayne johnson and john william scott the rundown absolutely
⏹️ ▶️ Casey without a shadow of a doubt a modern classic so if you would like to hear me and marco and john
⏹️ ▶️ Casey discuss the modern classic the two thousand three film the rundown check it out at a t p
⏹️ ▶️ Casey df m slash join o inda we should also do one more minor piece of housekeeping marco
⏹️ ▶️ Casey do you want to talk about the bootleg versus non bootleg et cetera feeds with regard to the movie club please and thank
⏹️ ▶️ Marco you oh yes so um the since this is the very first like premium member
⏹️ ▶️ Marco content we ever published a bunch of weird edge cases and questions came up as we were doing it and and a couple
⏹️ ▶️ Marco of cms bugs even that i fixed anyway so the debate
⏹️ ▶️ Marco the question came should this be in the bootleg feed cause the bootleg contained the you know
⏹️ ▶️ Marco the unedited live streams of the show and there was no united live stream of the member specials
⏹️ ▶️ Marco like it’s just you know there is this only an edited version and so at first the c m s was
⏹️ ▶️ Marco was unintentionally written quote you know written to to only put it
⏹️ ▶️ Marco in the main feed but many members subscribe only to the boot like fee because that’s just how they prefer to listen
⏹️ ▶️ Marco to the show they prefer the united show and so once i fixed the glitch
⏹️ ▶️ Marco there’s actually a bug and unintended behavior that it was leaving those out now these
⏹️ ▶️ Marco will appear in both feeds so the only inconvenience is if you happen to subscribe to
⏹️ ▶️ Marco both the member and free feed and the bootleg feed you will get
⏹️ ▶️ Marco two copies one in each feed but i think most people pick one or the other
⏹️ ▶️ Marco and don’t usually ascribe to both and that way no matter which feed you subscribe to if
⏹️ ▶️ Marco there is any member specific content whether it has a bootleg version or not you will get that episode
⏹️ ▶️ John i think this is one more opportunity to remind people that hey if you are need to be a member you get access to both of those
⏹️ ▶️ John things the bootleg feed which is the unedited feed of the show which i’m not sure why people want to listen to
⏹️ ▶️ John but they do and the edited feed which is the show as its release to everybody but you get
⏹️ ▶️ John a version with no ads
⏹️ ▶️ Casey in it it’s pretty sweet no matter how you slice it so at pdm slash join
⏹️ ▶️ Casey i thank you for everyone who has who has already a member who has joined who has commented on the ah
⏹️ ▶️ Casey on the recordings we had a lot of fun doing them again we don’t have sitting here now any particular
⏹️ ▶️ Casey plans for future members only content i’m sure it will happen eventually but we we
⏹️ ▶️ Casey aren’t currently planning on making a habit of it but it was a lot of fun to do something just for the members because we
⏹️ ▶️ Casey love everyone that listens we might love our members just to touch more though i’m going to be honest so do
⏹️ ▶️ John and let us know what you think of it and let us know your wacky ideas for members only content again no promises
⏹️ ▶️ John that we will listen to any of them by love hearing them because you have a lot of good ideas
⏹️ ▶️ Casey yeah that that is genuinely very true the tough thing is is that we’re all very lazy and we don’t want to do something super involved
⏹️ ▶️ Casey, John buying stuff
⏹️ ▶️ John i’m ready to do stuff all the time it’s just you know if it’s like go skydiving together it’s probably not going to happen but hey interesting
⏹️ ▶️ Casey idea well but i think the thing that would be the most fun would be for all of us to play destiny together and i have
⏹️ ▶️ Casey no equipment with which to play destiny i
⏹️ ▶️ Casey, Marco think would
⏹️ ▶️ Marco be the most fun is cooking with john but that just wants
⏹️ ▶️ Marco, John to be a show and we got a lot of things that
⏹️ ▶️ John have a high bar and that don’t lend themselves well to podcasting so keep
⏹️ ▶️ John, Marco that in mind
⏹️ ▶️ Marco some day we’re going to find a way to do cooking with john in audio form i don’t know how i was i was thinking earlier like
⏹️ ▶️ Casey this what if we did this sort of thing where it’s what is is it brad and
⏹️ ▶️ Casey mike do the build a lego set but only one of them has the instructions and the other one is
⏹️ ▶️ Casey doing the building for um it’s not their members special on relay every year what if we did something
⏹️ ▶️ Casey, Marco like yeah but
⏹️ ▶️ Marco i think that even that that kind of thing i think that wants to be video like in cooking with john like it
⏹️ ▶️ Marco has to be like a live reaction video like you have to have john live reacting to
⏹️ ▶️ Marco one of us trying to cook food in his style and doing everything wrong like that’s
⏹️ ▶️ Marco what that show would be and and i don’t know how we do that in audio for
⏹️ ▶️ Casey let me remind you if i if i remember i will put in the show notes but i well all three of us it wasn’t just
⏹️ ▶️ Casey me all three of us were together many moons ago at john’s house around christmas time i don’t remember exactly when
⏹️ ▶️ John was just a big trauma in your life have you repeated it like six times
⏹️ ▶️ Casey was a profound moment in my life john i just he asked me to help him make pizza and my recollection
⏹️ ▶️ Casey of the pizza was that it was very very good i was happy to help him make pizza he asked me to shred what was
⏹️ ▶️ Casey it marcel even remember what cheese it was it was surely mazzei and i attempted to shred it
⏹️ ▶️ Casey and he immediately was aghast and informed me that i had done this utterly incorrectly
⏹️ ▶️ Casey took his beloved cheese grater from my cold dead hands which had died from embarrassment
⏹️ ▶️ Casey and then immediately on the same plate showed me and instructed me on the correct way
⏹️ ▶️ Casey to great cheese so cooking with john should happen eventually one day but no promises
⏹️ ▶️ John you were doing it like someone who had never grated cheese before i
⏹️ ▶️ John, Casey literally had never
⏹️ ▶️ John but not a lot i mean it showed so that’s
⏹️ ▶️ John, Casey i found it i found it all right
⏹️ ▶️ John i just needed to take over
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Follow-up: Apple Pay addresses
⏹️ ▶️ Casey all right can you tell me john about apple pay looking for a quote unquote valid address please
⏹️ ▶️ John complained about this last week that etsy was rejecting my apple pay payments because i thought all my addresses were invalid
⏹️ ▶️ John and then i got the same rejection when i was buying my phone but luckily i went through eventually tons of people rode in
⏹️ ▶️ John to say hey i’ve had that happen to me as well it’s very difficult to tell whether it actually is a problem or it’s just that when
⏹️ ▶️ John you say you’ve experienced a problem you’ll hear from all the other people who did experience the problem so i don’t know if
⏹️ ▶️ John this is a new thing or whatever but it is very common a graham dobby wrote
⏹️ ▶️ John in about an apple pay issue that he was having it etsy as well he said i had the same issue
⏹️ ▶️ John paying etsy using apple pay no combination of changing or deleting addresses made any difference but apple pay
⏹️ ▶️ John worked perfectly well on other websites after back and forth to etsy’s support the issue was left unresolved the last
⏹️ ▶️ John i heard was this quote our team is still looking into things with the engineers in the meantime
⏹️ ▶️ John checking out not using apple pie will allow you to perceive with the purchase this was in october twenty
⏹️ ▶️ John eighteen so that does not bode well for any working out whatever the problem was with apple
⏹️ ▶️ John pay on their website that’s not great um the only thing i heard about this that was sort of substantive and not
⏹️ ▶️ John like you know just like people relating their own experiences was the the idea
⏹️ ▶️ John that some shipping or logistics companies will give you a discount will
⏹️ ▶️ John give like the site the store the comer site a discount on their shipping if
⏹️ ▶️ John the address that they send to is on their pre approved list of like known valid addresses
⏹️ ▶️ John or whatever right cause that’s what explains like why would why would a store ever stop you from checking out like you don’t want anything
⏹️ ▶️ John in the checkout flow that stops you from you know from making the purchase so what could possibly motivate
⏹️ ▶️ John sites to do this or payment processors to do this and for when it comes to the sites doing this
⏹️ ▶️ John because websites also times complain about your address or offer your alternatives whatever is they’re trying to get
⏹️ ▶️ John a cheaper shipping rate for themselves you know whether or not they pass that on to you they’re trying to get a cheaper shipping
⏹️ ▶️ John rate and saying hey you entered one two three main street you sure you didn’t mean this
⏹️ ▶️ John address one it’s always in all caps one two three main s t period would you like to send to
⏹️ ▶️ John that one you know and usually you can pick now i want to send to the one that i wrote not the one that you wrote in some cases in
⏹️ ▶️ John some countries in some situations there is a financial incentive for them to only
⏹️ ▶️ John send to one of these lists of pre approved addresses and maybe that has something to do with what’s
⏹️ ▶️ John happened with that thing or it could be something totally unrelated i don’t know but anyway it’s a common problem
⏹️ ▶️ John and no one knows the solution
iPhone 14 repairability design
⏹️ ▶️ Casey so the iphone fourteen fourteen pro and fourteen macs have all been released we’re going to talk about that
⏹️ ▶️ Casey in a little bit but the iphone fourteen in particular has
⏹️ ▶️ Casey a completely new design in reading from i fix it apple has completely redesigned the internals
⏹️ ▶️ Casey of the iphone fourteen to make it easier to repair it is not at all visible from the outside but this is big a big deal
⏹️ ▶️ Casey it’s the most significant design change the iphone in a long time the iphone fourteen pro and pro max models still have
⏹️ ▶️ Casey the old architecture when you drop an iphone thirteen its metal frame absorbs that shock transmitting
⏹️ ▶️ Casey and spreading the force across the glued in battery in sturdily adhered rear glass
⏹️ ▶️ Casey the iphone fourteen meets the same challenge but it achieves the required torsional rigidity in a
⏹️ ▶️ Casey totally different way a new mid frame sits between the display and the guts of the
⏹️ ▶️ Casey phone and takes the brunt of forced distribution across the frame and battery that is
⏹️ ▶️ Casey super cool and in a way i kind of wish i had a fourteen not a fourteen pro
⏹️ ▶️ John the big sail here is like it used to be that phones you could open up from the screen side i could
⏹️ ▶️ John pop off the screen and then you could you know replace the screen and do other stuff but you couldn’t open
⏹️ ▶️ John it from the back it was basically like a bath tub kind of and then the screen was lit on the top so if you needed
⏹️ ▶️ John to replace something that was basically exposed on the back of the phone you would have to open up the
⏹️ ▶️ John front dig out all the guts and get to the thing that was underneath that you wanted to repair
⏹️ ▶️ John and the new fourteen you can open it from the front or the back and the mid frame they’re talking about it
⏹️ ▶️ John it’s like there’s a you know so there’s the ring around the outside that you feel that you know when you grab the phone and
⏹️ ▶️ John then inside the phone there’s this skinny metal piece that sits kind of in the middle of the sandwich and
⏹️ ▶️ John the back stuff is on the back side of that and the front stuff is on the front side of that so if you if you want to replace
⏹️ ▶️ John something that’s on the back now you can take off the back part or if you break the back like if you break the glass
⏹️ ▶️ John back on your on your iphone now they can just take off that back glass and replace it or if you want
⏹️ ▶️ John to get at something that’s on the very back of the iphone you can just pry off the back glass and get at it immediatly
⏹️ ▶️ John and and the screen the same deal if you just want replace the screen you pull that off the front of the one way more repairable you
⏹️ ▶️ John should watch the video of like how well they’ve they’ve done this how all the connectors are threaded through and you
⏹️ ▶️ John could you know remove all the pieces big change in repair ability and as
⏹️ ▶️ John you know you noted the the pro and the promax do not have this new design there
⏹️ ▶️ John still they still have the old design where you can open up the front real easily but the back is just
⏹️ ▶️ John one piece and it’s really difficult to do and that is reflected in the repair prices so
⏹️ ▶️ John this is like no apple care out of warranty like you broke it how much does it cost to fix it the iphone fourteen
⏹️ ▶️ John if you break the back class a hundred and fifty dollars to repair it if it’s out of warranty you know
⏹️ ▶️ John, Casey that’s nothing that’s
⏹️ ▶️ John, Marco awesome that’s
⏹️ ▶️ John amazing the iphone fourteen pro max five hundred and fifty dollars for that same
⏹️ ▶️ John fix it fix the people say and like that’s not because they’re ripping you off it’s because the huge amount of labor and a
⏹️ ▶️ John and like because you have to basically pull all the guts out of the phone to get because you have to you know remove that
⏹️ ▶️ John the the part that’s broken you got to put all the guts out of it the event show like and one of the older fronds probably
⏹️ ▶️ John threw the new ones do to get like to sort of unglued the back from like the magsafe
⏹️ ▶️ John the what do you call it the wireless charging coil or whatever they had like a laser they would use to like
⏹️ ▶️ John burn off the adhesive and able to go back and forth or you’d have like shatter the gra glass and pull off
⏹️ ▶️ John the little shards of glass with tweezers it was expensive because it’s a huge amount of time and it was so labor intensive
⏹️ ▶️ John so it’s fascinating that the iphone fourteen the non pro one has this way better design
⏹️ ▶️ John for repair ability but the expensive phones don’t and you know like i think it will eventually
⏹️ ▶️ John you know trickle up to the rest of the iphone line because we were like wonder why apple’s doing this
⏹️ ▶️ John or they’re being so nice now of course apple’s doing this when they have repairs that are easier to do
⏹️ ▶️ John that helps them because you have fewer botched repairs and fewer situations are you have to like oh we screwed up
⏹️ ▶️ John your phone trying to repair it and we have to give you a whole new phone or whatever repair ability helps apple a lot
⏹️ ▶️ John helps customers a little too in terms of paying less when you break or whatever but it’s like there’s no
⏹️ ▶️ John question about why apple would be motivated to make its phones easy to repair that’s why almost everything they’ve done with all
⏹️ ▶️ John their products to make it easy to repair is easy to justify it because hey if someone comes in with
⏹️ ▶️ John a macular and they broke the u s port wouldn’t it be great if we can just remove the little port yes that’s why it’s on a
⏹️ ▶️ John submodule it just makes the repair faster and easier get the customer in and out faster and and if it’s une arrant you don’t
⏹️ ▶️ John have to pay for a whole new logic board right so this makes a lot of sense it’s just a shame that it didn’t make it to the
⏹️ ▶️ John expensive phones but watch for it in the next few years
US iPhone 14s have SIM spacer
⏹️ ▶️ Casey so with regard to us phones they don’t have any sort of sim
⏹️ ▶️ Casey slot or at least so we think but then i fix it opened it up and apparently
⏹️ ▶️ Casey there is the space for it it wasn’t used for anything else and they just put a little plastic spacer in there
⏹️ ▶️ Casey so reading from my fix it it’s still a little eerie and very un apple like to weigh space like this the plastic spacer is
⏹️ ▶️ Casey roughly the same size as a two by two lego brick and weighs half a gram
⏹️ ▶️ John should look at the picture of it on the i fix a thing is literally like just a chunk of inert plastic just
⏹️ ▶️ John a space filler so you know we talked about that not having the site gives you more internal space
⏹️ ▶️ John that you can fill with stuff in this phone they have not filled it with stuff because i mean i guess i think
⏹️ ▶️ John it’s only the u s phones that don’t have a symmetry well anyway the the majority of phones
⏹️ ▶️ John are sold outside the us i would imagine if you can hold the rest of the world and they didn’t want to make
⏹️ ▶️ John two different models so uh yeah we don’t get that space savings but as soon as they can go everywhere
⏹️ ▶️ John you can bet they’re going to reclaim that space but it is hilarious that in in this like tightest of spaces
⏹️ ▶️ John where they have so many components jammed in and everything they basically are designed the same phone and they said you know
⏹️ ▶️ John on the u s one the band around the outside won’t have a hole in it and inside you can see all the contacts where
⏹️ ▶️ John the sim tray would go like the board is the same everything’s the same there’s just no sim tray we have to put something there you
⏹️ ▶️ John know for rigidity or whatever little plastic spacer
iPhone 14 Pro cases
⏹️ ▶️ Casey john tell me about your phone case or cases
⏹️ ▶️ John i’m going to talk more about my we’ll all talk more about our purchase experiences a little later but people
⏹️ ▶️ John wanted to know what kind of cases i’m getting i mentioned last week that i had ordered the bull strap black leather case
⏹️ ▶️ John with an open bottom on it in magsafe and we’ll put another link to that and this week show notes you can find
⏹️ ▶️ John it i ordered a second leather case just because i don’t know redundancy i’ll talk about the
⏹️ ▶️ John, Marco this one is from
⏹️ ▶️ John in my case i didn’t like the bull that case because i know i’m probably not going to like the buttons on the ball strap case right
⏹️ ▶️ John i wanted a second one from ryan london and it’s a black leather case with an open bottom shocker
⏹️ ▶️ John the buttons look a little bit different than they do on the bull trap we’ll see how it goes
⏹️ ▶️ Marco i also i have a couple of case updates too i have the the apple clear case for my
⏹️ ▶️ Marco phone fourteen which this is the first year i’ve actually gotten apple’s clear case like i started experimenting
⏹️ ▶️ Marco with clear cases last year and and i’d used some third party ones and they were
⏹️ ▶️ Marco they were decent overall fine um this year the only one i could get on
⏹️ ▶️ Marco day one for guaranteed day one delivery was apples and so i thought let me give it a try maybe i won’t
⏹️ ▶️ Marco like it but i at least want to you know live with it and it’s actually okay i’m actually
⏹️ ▶️ Marco enjoying it um i think it is it is much nicer looking than the third party
⏹️ ▶️ Marco ones that i’ve used we’ll see how it ages you know clear cases have a tendency to yellow over time
⏹️ ▶️ Marco even the ones that say they have anti yellowing technology also themselves do yellow
⏹️ ▶️ Marco over time so we’ll see and this is as john mentioned last week
⏹️ ▶️ Marco the only apple apple phone case that’s sold right now that has an open
⏹️ ▶️ Marco bottom and as much as it pains me to admit it i think
⏹️ ▶️ Marco john was right i think open bottoms are awesome
⏹️ ▶️ Casey i think the open bottom is better but i’m jumping ahead a little bit here but i have
⏹️ ▶️ Casey the official apple leather case it definitely has a non open bottom and you can feel it when you do the little swipe
⏹️ ▶️ Casey up home jester it does not bother me in the story of a t p for the last ten
⏹️ ▶️ Casey it does not bother me nearly as much as it bothers either if
⏹️ ▶️ John remember the correct nominate this is bare bottom that’s what we’re
⏹️ ▶️ John, Marco in the open bottom
⏹️ ▶️ John slightly more appealing i feel like
⏹️ ▶️ John, Marco if we’re doing this now that we’re doing this to elsie
⏹️ ▶️ John please stop i was going to say this for later but soon as marco mentioned it i also got the clear case
⏹️ ▶️ John as mentioned before this is my tied me over case because both of those leather cases are coming like mid october or something
⏹️ ▶️ John best case scenario so i need a case until then so i got the clear apple one because it’s got the open bottom
⏹️ ▶️ John this is the worst case i’ve ever owned for any
⏹️ ▶️ John like it it’s all right i didn’t think it was going to be a big deal it’s clear case i don’t like outlooks it’ll probably
⏹️ ▶️ John feel weird ah but you know whatever’s just to tide me over i was not prepared for the thing that would bother
⏹️ ▶️ John me the most about this case it’s not oh you get crumbs underneath it it’s not like oh it’s too slippery or whatever it’s not that
⏹️ ▶️ John it’s it’s clear and ugly or whatever all those things are factors but i knew about those that think would be fine i don’t know if you’re
⏹️ ▶️ John going to be able to hear this see if you i’m going to put this on of my and see you can pick us up at all if not then i will just
⏹️ ▶️ Marco hear from my crinkling or
⏹️ ▶️ Marco, Casey is that like when
⏹️ ▶️ Marco you push the buttons is it making a creaking sound
⏹️ ▶️ John when i put my phone into this case directly out of the box directly into the case like not touched
⏹️ ▶️ John by human hands clean room style phone case goes in whatever
⏹️ ▶️ John this thing creaks inside this case like crazy it’s like the phone
⏹️ ▶️ John is constantly moving micrometers back and forth and each time it does it overcomes
⏹️ ▶️ John the static friction against the case and then he sticks to it it’s like you can imagine like
⏹️ ▶️ John something sticking to it and then pulling away sticking to it every time i pick up this phone i feel the case move
⏹️ ▶️ John it moves in it moves out the phone moves up moves down you be saying maybe you don’t have the phone seated all the way believe me
⏹️ ▶️ John i checked a million times is this not seated is it not in the case it’s in the case every
⏹️ ▶️ John time i grab my phone it’s like this case does like it’s not like it doesn’t fit it’s
⏹️ ▶️ John not like it’s too loose but it creaks and it moves it feels terrible it sounds terrible
⏹️ ▶️ John i thought it would get broken and over time like maybe it’s just creaking because it’s new but it hasn’t every time i
⏹️ ▶️ John pick up my phone i hate this case more now my words being weird nothing to do with the ugliness
⏹️ ▶️ John nothing to do with the crumbs all those things happen i cannot stand this case i’ve almost thought
⏹️ ▶️ John of like maybe i should just go bare without it because it’s so bad how could they screw this up so badly
⏹️ ▶️ John when i pick up my phone i don’t want to feel anything move let alone her creaking or snapping or
⏹️ ▶️ John pulling away oh it’s so bad so bad i hate it so much
⏹️ ▶️ Marco i mean forever it’s worse mine doesn’t do any of those things and i have the exact same flow in the exact same case so maybe
⏹️ ▶️ John can you can you like pick up your phone now and like and like do a little bit of torsional rigidity
⏹️ ▶️ John feel the case moving
⏹️ ▶️ Marco if i if i like little like twist the phone like i can
⏹️ ▶️ Marco very slight movement but i’ve literally like in regular picking up and handling it that never happens
⏹️ ▶️ John pick up the phone put your fins on either side of inch squeeze to squeeze the sides does
⏹️ ▶️ Marco the case move my fingers just cracked but no the case does not move now
⏹️ ▶️ John my case does if i’m squeezing like where where the look on the back where the circle almost meets
⏹️ ▶️ John the vertical line put your fingers on the opposite side of that and squeeze
⏹️ ▶️ Marco i and it’s kind of low but no it’s also not there either no no matter where a squeeze and besides it doesn’t
⏹️ ▶️ John do it maybe maybe my case is is flawed or has some problem with it or ever but it is so bad
⏹️ ▶️ John and you wouldn’t think this about that much every time i pick it up i grab it and it’s like i feel that case
⏹️ ▶️ John move and it feels insecure and it feels gross and i hate it i
⏹️ ▶️ Marco hate it so much yeah mine mine definitely does not do that and the only complaint i have about this case
⏹️ ▶️ Marco is that it is not as grippy feeling as the third party ones are
⏹️ ▶️ Marco the apple case is made for me like a little bit harder plastic that’s a little bit less tacky
⏹️ ▶️ Marco but it’s fun i mean you know once it was kind of weird the very first day it seemed to be i guess for manufacturing
⏹️ ▶️ Marco or something it seemed to be coated in like a slight layer of like grease
⏹️ ▶️ Marco that that was kind of off putting but you know within one day of handling it that all had
⏹️ ▶️ Marco rubbed off and so now it just feels like plastic and it feels fine yeah like you know we’ll see how it
⏹️ ▶️ Marco ages but so far i like it a lot
⏹️ ▶️ John obviously this will be immediately coming out of the phone when any of my other cases come in the meantime i’m just
⏹️ ▶️ John grinding my teeth and bearing oh
⏹️ ▶️ John, Marco it i’ll also
⏹️ ▶️ Marco say that the only other case i’ve ordered so far is um the only one that i couldn’t get
⏹️ ▶️ Marco last year due to various backorder issues that everyone recommended the pataca
⏹️ ▶️ Marco so i have that one coming it’s going to be here i think in a few days and now china goes
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Casey’sCableCard
⏹️ ▶️ Casey i would like to do a very brief bit of long term follow up with regard
⏹️ ▶️ Casey to my channels set up an hd home run and if you
⏹️ ▶️ Casey recall the way i had things working previously is that i use tv everywhere to log into my fios
⏹️ ▶️ Casey account and that would let me stream things to the channels app but
⏹️ ▶️ Casey i had heard through the grapevine that the right way to do this is to do what john did which is get a
⏹️ ▶️ Casey hd homerun prime i believe it’s called and that has a cable
⏹️ ▶️ Casey card input and that would let you if you speak to your cable company if they support it that
⏹️ ▶️ Casey would let you get basically everything that you get on cable except maybe like premium channels which i don’t pay
⏹️ ▶️ Casey for anyway and you don’t have to stream it it’s not coming across the air or anything like that it’s pretty much
⏹️ ▶️ Casey exactly like having a tivo right john wright anyway so i had a listener who was kind enough
⏹️ ▶️ Casey to send one of these to me and i sat on it for a couple of weeks and then i finally got around to asking my verizon fios people
⏹️ ▶️ Casey for a cable card that came in it is which i
⏹️ ▶️ Casey knew but had forgotten it is pretty much a p c m c i a card most of you are probably like
⏹️ ▶️ Casey what’s that which is the correct response
⏹️ ▶️ John that’s amazing you just mean it’s a pc card though it’s not a p c m c a car
⏹️ ▶️ Marco what’s it’s same it’s just they later renamed it to pc card it’s that’s what
⏹️ ▶️ Marco but it’s a newer isn’t pc card or newer standard it might be like you know version two of the same
⏹️ ▶️ Marco thing but like i think it was just a shortening of the name in a newer version to make it a little bit more
⏹️ ▶️ Marco consumer friendly than pcmc i
⏹️ ▶️ John it’s like a pc the pc i bus version two versus p c i bus version three except that they renamed it
⏹️ ▶️ John between two and three i think but anyway you can say pc card
⏹️ ▶️ Marco see if you say pc card people might think like just a slot card like like a pci card that you put in a pc
⏹️ ▶️ Marco i now it’s a bad they picked a bad name yeah they went from one bad name to you know a slots
⏹️ ▶️ Marco bad it’s a good thing we have us before version coming
⏹️ ▶️ Marco, Casey is that right exactly
⏹️ ▶️ Casey the same as it ever was yeah and i’m looking i’m glancing at the wikipedia entries there is a different entry for p card versus p
⏹️ ▶️ Casey c m c a i’m unclear i guess p c m c i a is the association
⏹️ ▶️ Casey whereas the pc card is strictly speaking you’re right john
⏹️ ▶️ Marco i believe that was retcon that way
⏹️ ▶️ Marco, John okay that’s what i thought
⏹️ ▶️ John at that like two three two
⏹️ ▶️ Marco when they briefly did two by two u s three point oh two three point two two by
⏹️ ▶️ John to do yet roman numerals throw them in the mix why
⏹️ ▶️ John got type two type three type four all roman numerals
⏹️ ▶️ Casey nice in any case so yet the cable card is to my eyes i don’t care if it’s pc
⏹️ ▶️ Casey pc card whatever it’s one of those things one of the things that us people like marco and me would get like
⏹️ ▶️ Casey pcmcia wireless adapter for our laptops back when we were in college like that was that was the last time i had
⏹️ ▶️ Casey worked with one of these and we owe and we talked about like ex jack whatever it’s called where you had a modem and the little thing
⏹️ ▶️ Casey would like uh what do you call that where you you push in and the thing pops out it had like a little a
⏹️ ▶️ Casey receptacle for the rj eleven it was super cool
⏹️ ▶️ Casey it really breakable yeah well that’s a fact that’s a fact so anyway so i get this he home prime
⏹️ ▶️ Casey from a very kind listener i asked verizon to send me the cable card they
⏹️ ▶️ Casey do i plug it all in i try to set it all up and of course i try
⏹️ ▶️ Casey to do the online you know self service activation it didn’t work i forget exactly why so then i forget
⏹️ ▶️ Casey on a chat with the verizon people and i read to them the magical numerals that i need to
⏹️ ▶️ Casey read to them and that didn’t work and then of course they’re like well look at the tv and
⏹️ ▶️ Casey tell me this and i have to explain it’s not connected to a tv you see it’s it’s
⏹️ ▶️ Casey it’s like a capture box and this and that and that didn’t go over well especially over that you’re
⏹️ ▶️ John the the cable card info right from the the channels web you
⏹️ ▶️ Casey well well i don’t think i got it from the channel’s web but i absolutely could get it from hd homerun web
⏹️ ▶️ Casey ui and so anyway one way or another it eventually turned out that the person i was speaking
⏹️ ▶️ Casey to was very kind escalated to some other magical person and that other magical person
⏹️ ▶️ Casey with no further info from me flipped magical switches and then it all got working so was a bit of the pain
⏹️ ▶️ Casey in the butt but i got to tell you once you have the set up in as much as some snacking on john and his beloved
⏹️ ▶️ Casey tivo like i’ve never had a tv i don’t know what the tivo experience is like
⏹️ ▶️ John but i’ll get the premium channels with the cable card deepa
⏹️ ▶️ Casey a fair fair and well maybe that is possible channels i honestly don’t know i’m not saying it is or it isn’t i didn’t think
⏹️ ▶️ Casey it was possible but i am not sure one way or the other this is so nice like if you are
⏹️ ▶️ Casey going to pay for a tv set up which most people including me probably shouldn’t
⏹️ ▶️ Casey it is so nice because then i have the entirety of my cable everywhere because like
⏹️ ▶️ Casey plaques channels will work outside the house inside the house and now instead of having a big honkin
⏹️ ▶️ Casey table box table box a big honkin cable box with a with a spinning hard
⏹️ ▶️ Casey drive in it in my living room now the cable box has just arrived back at verizon today because i
⏹️ ▶️ Casey don’t need it any more and i am saving a whopping like two dollars a month by not having a dvr in
⏹️ ▶️ Casey my house because instead of charging me like thirteen dollars they’re charging me ten dollars so i guess i’m saving three bucks
⏹️ ▶️ Casey a month but um they’re charging me ten dollars to the cable card instead of fifteen for the dvr with its god
⏹️ ▶️ Casey awful interface but it is really really nice i’m really really enjoying it so far and it was super cool about
⏹️ ▶️ Casey it is when we tailgate which was discussed on upgrade plus this week when
⏹️ ▶️ Casey we tailgate at the university of virginia which is where my wife went to school we will have a tv set
⏹️ ▶️ Casey up there and if you want to watch another football game like for example the virginia tech game which is where i went to
⏹️ ▶️ Casey school you can hook up an ipad to the tv and have
⏹️ ▶️ Casey it play your your your cable at home through the network through
⏹️ ▶️ Casey the internet through the through my verizon wireless connection to the tv sitting
⏹️ ▶️ Casey in the middle of a field at ve which is pretty freaking rad so granted i
⏹️ ▶️ Casey could have done this with streaming and it was like directly from s p n but the quality would probably be worse it’s still
⏹️ ▶️ Casey it’s really cool nobody should care about this but if you do care about it it’s super great which
⏹️ ▶️ Casey is another theme for atv
Blue-blocking glasses
⏹️ ▶️ Casey marco tell me about your glasses and blue blue blocking lenses please
⏹️ ▶️ Marco i don’t know how much fall i can really do yet because i don’t actually have like you know good glasses yet
⏹️ ▶️ Marco but we did hear from a number of people about the topic of the blue blocking lenses
⏹️ ▶️ Marco the consensus seems to be there are various degrees of blue light blockage
⏹️ ▶️ Marco and they correspond directly to how much they do give a yellowish color
⏹️ ▶️ Marco cast to the image that you see because of course you know like i had asked last last episode because i had heard
⏹️ ▶️ Marco from the optometrist that you don’t really notice there is no noticeable color cast and yeah it turns out that’s
⏹️ ▶️ John think it might be true in the same sense that if you’ve ever gone skiing and or and yellow ski goggles because you were born in the
⏹️ ▶️ John seventies you put the ski goggles over your face yellow or orange ski goggles
⏹️ ▶️ John that are like super yellow or super orange right and but then after you’ve had the goggles on
⏹️ ▶️ John for a little bit your brain adjusts and you stop noticing that everything looks like p the reason you always
⏹️ ▶️ John look like the reason you keep noticing it with night shift is because only your phone looks like
⏹️ ▶️ John pee right the rest of the world doesn’t but when you put the goggles on your face or i would imagine blue blocking
⏹️ ▶️ John glasses your brain just recalibrate and everything looks normal and in the case of ski goggles until you
⏹️ ▶️ John pick the ski goggles up and then the snow is blindingly blue right um so i imagine that’s what the eye
⏹️ ▶️ John doctor’s trying to say oh you don’t notice but it absolutely colors things and with glasses unlike goggles
⏹️ ▶️ John you can look under over the glasses which is how i spend half my life you know getting away with wearing my
⏹️ ▶️ John driving glasses and then being able to read my phone you look under your glasses cause i’m not quite ready to have progressives or
⏹️ ▶️ John bifocals yet um so you still with glasses you can still see the true colors out
⏹️ ▶️ John of your peripheral vision and under your glasses and i think that would make you continue to notice
⏹️ ▶️ John the fact that they are giving everything a yellowish cast but i guess if you get like big old person wrap
⏹️ ▶️ John around blue blockers maybe you’re kind of like sea goggles you’ll you won’t be able to see any unfiltered
⏹️ ▶️ John light and your brain will just readjust i
⏹️ ▶️ Marco mean for for a number of years now my preferred driving sunglasses have had like
⏹️ ▶️ Marco slightly gold lenses and they do the same thing intentionally
⏹️ ▶️ Marco and the reason i like them for driving is that it allows me to have you know they’re they’re
⏹️ ▶️ Marco in of these decent glasses that you know they have like good quality lenses and they’re polarized but they’re not
⏹️ ▶️ Marco that dark but they are slightly golden or brown tinted which means they block more
⏹️ ▶️ Marco blue and so what this does is it allows me to have a lot of
⏹️ ▶️ Marco like eye relief during driving you know from sun and stuff but without making
⏹️ ▶️ Marco the i guess image too dark and so i i love them in the winter because
⏹️ ▶️ Marco you know there’s a lot of glare in the winter from various direct and everything but there’s not a ton of overall light
⏹️ ▶️ Marco necessarily in the winter and it’s great for that but it definitely does make everything
⏹️ ▶️ Marco look a little bit warmer color temperature wise and so anyway so what we heard from we heard
⏹️ ▶️ Marco from a lot of listeners who have tried blue blocking glasses in know further regular eyeglasses and
⏹️ ▶️ Marco the i believe the opinion was pretty solidly negative on them most
⏹️ ▶️ Marco tried them did not like them and most people said you know don’t even bother slash
⏹️ ▶️ Marco i tried them and hate them you know or whatever so overall not strong reviews
⏹️ ▶️ Marco anyway so i got a couple of cheap readers amazon that came in today that i think
⏹️ ▶️ Marco are probably unusable i also
⏹️ ▶️ Marco you know in order to try out different things from a lot of people recommended that i try out intermediate
⏹️ ▶️ Marco distance readers which are made more for like computer screen distances than like holding a book
⏹️ ▶️ Marco distances so i ordered one of those from one of the cheap places and people kept recommending a zenni
⏹️ ▶️ Marco optical and i by direct so i ordered a couple from each that are really cheap
⏹️ ▶️ Marco and so i have i got an intermediate on order and i have a a progressive
⏹️ ▶️ Marco that goes from nothing to reading i am i to try both of those and see kinda how that
⏹️ ▶️ Marco goes and trying out different coatings and then i’ll figure out what the heck is actually going to work for me
⏹️ ▶️ Casey yet with regard to any optical last episode i was you know trying to reach for
⏹️ ▶️ Casey the name of a website where i had looked and ordering kids glasses was
⏹️ ▶️ Casey just as expensive as ordering them through the eye doctor and a lot of people were like oh you
⏹️ ▶️ Casey should try as many optical super cheap that’s the one i was thinking of where it’s basically the same money for kids
⏹️ ▶️ Casey glasses so coincidentally just this week michaela had her annual check up she’s getting new glasses
⏹️ ▶️ Casey it the way it worked this year is that it was two hundred and one dollars for a new set of
⏹️ ▶️ Casey glasses for michaela and i priced the exact same thing with the exact same script from zenni and
⏹️ ▶️ Casey it was a hundred and seventy four dollars so it was basically the same money cheaper but not
⏹️ ▶️ Casey a lot cheaper exactly right and so i’m not saying that’s true for adults i’m not saying that’s
⏹️ ▶️ Casey true for anything but for me for my use is because i wear hard contacts i don’t get glasses regularly
⏹️ ▶️ Casey and you know those have to be special ordered but for the kids anyhow zenni was actually not really
⏹️ ▶️ Casey any cheaper but like like many have said including new marco i think for adults it’s a very different ball
Apple’s iPhone upgrade guide
⏹️ ▶️ Casey right finally i was casting about asking people a last episode hey is there one true
⏹️ ▶️ Casey upgrade guide for what is the right way to handle upgrading a phone and or watch
⏹️ ▶️ Casey a handful of people recommended but jonathan giberson was the first to do it apple
⏹️ ▶️ Casey does have an official guide for this i don’t really love it it’s kind of choose your own adventure
⏹️ ▶️ Casey in a way that i’m not really in favor of including them starting with well
⏹️ ▶️ Casey which way would you like to do it and i want you to tell me that’s what i want is for
⏹️ ▶️ Casey you to tell me you know quick start icloud or itunes or finder which okay fine but i
⏹️ ▶️ Casey was looking for a little more specific guidance than that and we’ll talk probably right now about how
⏹️ ▶️ Casey we did our upgrades but i did want to at least put that link in the show notes and thank you to the people who wrote in including
⏹️ ▶️ Casey jonathan so thank you
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Our iPhones 14 Pro
⏹️ ▶️ Casey we bought and received some stuff so who wants to start
⏹️ ▶️ John let me start with my set up process as a cautionary tale for others
⏹️ ▶️ John i talk i talk last week that i’m have such bad luck with us and i’m so bad at
⏹️ ▶️ John it and then you know i relisted to the episode and i heard myself saying a bunch of things and i was
⏹️ ▶️ John like you know what i should have listened to my past self but
⏹️ ▶️ John, Casey oh no i don’t
⏹️ ▶️ John know why i didn’t listen to my mess i don’t if someone needs to like have some kind of intervention for me when i get
⏹️ ▶️ John a new phone oh i got my new phone and for some reason
⏹️ ▶️ John i decided based on like vague memories of dissatisfaction with the transfer process last time
⏹️ ▶️ John that i should try a technique that i hadn’t done
⏹️ ▶️ John recently right that i should you know i don’t remember what i did last year or the year before but i know in the recent
⏹️ ▶️ John years i’ve been using doing eye cloud or doing the direct transfer right i’m like you know what i haven’t done
⏹️ ▶️ John an itunes backup and restore in a while i should do that this year why did i think
⏹️ ▶️ John that even after on last week’s show i said definitely don’t do that and i wasn’t
⏹️ ▶️ John going to do it i did it so i made an encrypted back up to the finder
⏹️ ▶️ John after fighting with this i should find the link to this document after fighting with my computer to get back
⏹️ ▶️ John to work as i plugged in my phone to my computer and you know open the finder and it’s like we’ve detected
⏹️ ▶️ John the year i forget what the dialogue says like the year your phone needs updated version of software your magnet
⏹️ ▶️ John it’s said i need to do some kind of software update because i plugged in my phone this is what the finder is saying with a little dialogue and i
⏹️ ▶️ John said okay go ahead and it says downloading software and it gives some hilarious estimates like seventy eight days remaining
⏹️ ▶️ John and then it downloads in two seconds and then it says installing software and then it says softer insulation
⏹️ ▶️ John failed sorry i was like and i tried it like three times and i just did all the same process
⏹️ ▶️ John go through the same things as software insulation failed like did some googling eventually found
⏹️ ▶️ John oh you should it’s because you you should try a different cable sometimes the cables that
⏹️ ▶️ John whenever i just i’ll try anything i use the cable that came in the box with my phone and i plugged it directly into
⏹️ ▶️ John my mac pro instead of going through a u s b hub and doing all the u s b you know kind of like a
⏹️ ▶️ John just try anything all the normal sb debug one behold plugging it directly into my mac
⏹️ ▶️ John pro with the cable it came with didn’t pop up that dialogue and it didn’t encrypt it back up oh my gosh
⏹️ ▶️ John what great and then i put in the new phone and you know how do you want to set up your phone it’s
⏹️ ▶️ John going through the process i want to restore from your backup i want to restore from my and ripped it back up and did the restore it went pretty
⏹️ ▶️ John quick and then you know i looked at my
⏹️ ▶️ John and i was like yup there’s all my apps and in the all places i expect to see them and i had not nothing
⏹️ ▶️ John i had nothing on my phone all my slacks are signed out no twitter account in my tote wrap
⏹️ ▶️ John nothing in my two factor apps like this phone had never seen me before none of my preferences
⏹️ ▶️ John, Marco none of my life
⏹️ ▶️ John other than the eye cloud stuff cause i could stuff did sink but like my third party non eye cloud apps
⏹️ ▶️ John just nothing like none of my discords none of anything it was just everything was gone
⏹️ ▶️ John and i was like why did why did you do this why did you do itunes backup you just said in the last show houses like a
⏹️ ▶️ John legacy code path and apple’s not working in any more and both itunes a direct transfer are surely better why
⏹️ ▶️ John why why did you do i’m like well i just waited the hour and a half for to do it sales manually
⏹️ ▶️ John go through there sign into all my slacks again i’ve got my other phone next to me
⏹️ ▶️ Marco wouldn’t it be faster to wipe the new one and just redo it the correct
⏹️ ▶️ John i was in whatever whatever you stand to get into and i get a new phone
⏹️ ▶️ John, Marco i’ve i’ve got the
⏹️ ▶️ John other phone next to me right and so i’m like silent all the slacks then also look at the order that the slacks
⏹️ ▶️ John, Marco manure origin in
⏹️ ▶️ Marco the but i’ve done that a lot of times it’s terrible
⏹️ ▶️ John manually reorder the slacker in the order that i want do the two factor at least the two factor my ap has
⏹️ ▶️ John the export and now do the export and the import and compare the mixture the same log into all your twitter
⏹️ ▶️ John accounts reset all the preferences and twitter ific to be exactly where they are go through a screen at a time
⏹️ ▶️ John setting the preferences the same
⏹️ ▶️ John the other phone looking just go through it all and i just you know and then of course this is the thing
⏹️ ▶️ John this is there’s no help for this still cause this is an apple and i’m sure you have you have the same experience go
⏹️ ▶️ John to test flight install your mate is and
⏹️ ▶️ John of the other apps and it does a better job of putting them where they are supposed to be but
⏹️ ▶️ John, Marco not your widgets you got to
⏹️ ▶️ Marco put all your widgets
⏹️ ▶️ John back from your bats and sometimes restore purchases doesn’t work and it’s nothing the third party app developers
⏹️ ▶️ John can do about it cause test flight is buggy when it comes to store stuff and some store kit two stuff isn’t support it
⏹️ ▶️ John anyway i did all the things and it just took so long that i’m like what this is like this is my punishment
⏹️ ▶️ John i was undoing like this is my punishment being stupid and doing i tunes and gripped back up even though i
⏹️ ▶️ John said on the show don’t do that it’s dumb but then i got through this whole
⏹️ ▶️ John process and i thought i had it all licked and then i’m just doing the final sweep which is going through each screen
⏹️ ▶️ John and launching the apps and make sure hell oh i forgot adding all the cards to apple pay doing you know
⏹️ ▶️ John just all that all the logging back into venmo like doing all the stupid things logging
⏹️ ▶️ John back into all my bank apps and my finance things and setting up all it’s just
⏹️ ▶️ John just such a nightmare right and then the last when i’m doing the final sleep and going
⏹️ ▶️ John through stuff and i’m launching stuff i ranted about this on the podcast then if you wanted to see me on it
⏹️ ▶️ John it’s not that interesting you’re hearing an origin of it here um the final thing that that pushed me
⏹️ ▶️ John over the edge was i tapped on golfing on mars and i was on hole one
⏹️ ▶️ John is like no oh that is too far because there’s nothing you
⏹️ ▶️ John can do like that app developer intentionally makes it no there’s no cloud sinking if
⏹️ ▶️ John you lose your whole progress f you cause that’s what this game is about it’s not even like a menu that’s there’s
⏹️ ▶️ John nothing like that is part of this game and i was like and i just sat with that for like two hours
⏹️ ▶️ John just totally dejected and i was like no this this cannot stand and
⏹️ ▶️ John so after spending a whole day we’re just going through this whole process of like restoring my
⏹️ ▶️ John phone i’m like i have to wipe it i can’t
⏹️ ▶️ John i erased my whole phone saw it set up from new and did device to the device
⏹️ ▶️ John transfer got my desert not desert offing my golf on mars
⏹️ ▶️ John thousands of holes in on mars were correctly restored started to read all my cards
⏹️ ▶️ John to apple pay though my slacks were signed in and just it was the moral the stories
⏹️ ▶️ John people do not use encrypted finder backups use either device to device transfer my recommendation
⏹️ ▶️ John or i cloud and you will be much happier and learn from my terrible mistakes oh and by the
⏹️ ▶️ John way you notice i didn’t mention anything about the sim transfer it worked perfectly
⏹️ ▶️ John yeah the screen went by so fast i barely noticed it was there it was just like oh yeah no we’re transferring your number
⏹️ ▶️ John boot and it was done and then when i erased the phone there’s another thing i to drive when i when i gave up and erased the phone
⏹️ ▶️ John it said oh so you are erasing content settings do you want to erase the e sim two or do you want to leave
⏹️ ▶️ John that number on the phone i said leave the number on the phone that worked too so the only glitch was
⏹️ ▶️ John after this second restore i had to disable sather and reale re enable at once to get like
⏹️ ▶️ John the you know text to come through or whatever so esam totally not an issue and apparently
⏹️ ▶️ John i was distracted like a jurassic park clever girl and i tricked my brain doing a
⏹️ ▶️ John itune slash funder and cryptid backup restore which is garbage never do it anyway
⏹️ ▶️ John my phone set up now
⏹️ ▶️ Casey so it’s funny you say all that because i have always and forever been a devout
⏹️ ▶️ Casey i tune slash finder back a person that’s what i’ve always done for years and years and years and years
⏹️ ▶️ Casey i didn’t believe any of this bs about hello you can just do it poupon it’s worked so
⏹️ ▶️ Casey well baby but that is a bunch of of baloney but somebody i know
⏹️ ▶️ Casey said no i’m telling you you have to do device to device and so in my fugue state
⏹️ ▶️ Casey i thought no there was a voice in my head that some people say sounds like squidward that
⏹️ ▶️ Casey that told me i need to do device to device and that’s what i did and
⏹️ ▶️ Casey it worked out great it was no problem now the bad thing about device to device which i had forgotten or i guess never really
⏹️ ▶️ Casey known because i’d never done it is that you lose as far as i could tell you lose both of your phones
⏹️ ▶️ Casey for anywhere between one and three hours like they’re both tied up you can’t do anything with them you are sol
⏹️ ▶️ Casey and that’s not great but understandable because you know otherwise it would
⏹️ ▶️ Casey kind of be a moving target that is trying to transfer but it worked really well for me
⏹️ ▶️ Casey the esam transfer for me too i want to say somewhere
⏹️ ▶️ Casey on the two minute side to two to five minutes erin i never transferred her from a physical sim
⏹️ ▶️ Casey to anisa because i kinda wanted to experience both this was a deeply stressful moment for me because if i
⏹️ ▶️ Casey had taken her phone and started to do the transfer and then
⏹️ ▶️ Casey the e sim trans transfer failed then she would have been justifiably very perturbed
⏹️ ▶️ Casey and thankfully for her it also worked no sweat also took somewhere between two
⏹️ ▶️ Casey and five minutes i noticed like you guys had said that test flight did not really
⏹️ ▶️ Casey automatically restore itself but once i had test flight installed if memory
⏹️ ▶️ Casey serves i thought it automatically tried to put back everything that had previously been installed so the
⏹️ ▶️ Casey first step was now test flight wasn’t even there so i’m a i have all these blank spots on my home screen
⏹️ ▶️ Casey then test flight arrived and then i think i opened test flight once and i don’t think i had to
⏹️ ▶️ Casey actually click install i might i have that incorrect though i might be wrong about that but one way or another
⏹️ ▶️ Casey once i did install all these apps i forget which one of you just said it but yes then test flight
⏹️ ▶️ Casey and and springboard did a really good job of figuring out where these icons should be and based on you where
⏹️ ▶️ Casey they were previously that worked out real nicely although i realized that my carrot weather widget was gone which is what
⏹️ ▶️ Casey you were saying a moment ago marco that the widgets all disappeared to the bummer but yet device to device
⏹️ ▶️ Casey transfer actually worked really well and i had also somewhat um
⏹️ ▶️ Casey i don’t know superstitious done the you impair your watch in order
⏹️ ▶️ Casey to cause it to create a backup before you do the transfer and i just let it ride man
⏹️ ▶️ Casey i was like screw it all in let’s just see what device the device does and sure enough the device to
⏹️ ▶️ Casey device transfer after it got to the new phone at a very arbitrary seeming time it woke up and was like
⏹️ ▶️ Casey oh you have an apple watch do you want to transfer that to me yes yes i
⏹️ ▶️ Casey it worked pretty well like i don’t think there were any major issues there either so i
⏹️ ▶️ Casey am really really surprised at how well device a device transfer worked i will
⏹️ ▶️ Casey say that you really do need to expect that a you’re going to lose both of your phones for
⏹️ ▶️ Casey a solid one to three hours and b i watched this happen three different times i watched it with mine with
⏹️ ▶️ Casey errands and then with some friends of ours they actually came over and the wife and the family did
⏹️ ▶️ Casey her phone while they were at our our house and for her it was the same story it will read
⏹️ ▶️ Casey somewhere between three and infinite infinity hours to complete like oh you’ll be done in infinity
⏹️ ▶️ Casey but if you have faith for all three of us whatever the estimate was it ended up being more
⏹️ ▶️ Casey time than actually was needed which was really refreshing so i completely agree
⏹️ ▶️ Casey with john of last week and john of moments ago device the device is the way to do it with all of
⏹️ ▶️ Casey that said marco i would like to hear your story and then we can start talking about the devices
⏹️ ▶️ Marco i actually was pretty close to yours casey i so
⏹️ ▶️ Marco i did the vice the device not not involving my cloud just you know device to device transfer everything including all
⏹️ ▶️ Marco the passwords and everything and it got pretty much everything the only things that didn’t work
⏹️ ▶️ Marco correctly were and and the esm transferred happened just fine it was on at
⏹️ ▶️ Marco and t i it i don’t know if this matters i was doing it on saturday and on friday
⏹️ ▶️ Marco because that’s you know my island situation means i get everything one day late so um so maybe things were less
⏹️ ▶️ Marco overloaded then but whatever it everything was fine basically with with two exceptions
⏹️ ▶️ Marco i had to manually put in my email account again because for a while
⏹️ ▶️ Marco fastmail was offering configuration profiles to set up your email account
⏹️ ▶️ Casey yeah i had a configuration profile and that did not come with me i forgot about that that’s a good point
⏹️ ▶️ Marco mine and i think i think profiles aren’t transferred intentionally i think
⏹️ ▶️ Marco, John so anyway so
⏹️ ▶️ Marco, Casey out about that so
⏹️ ▶️ Marco i did it to reset reset up my email and i’m like you know what forget it i’m just going to do the old like you know single at password
⏹️ ▶️ Marco method you know which is what their website now offers i think only that
⏹️ ▶️ Marco i think they stopped
⏹️ ▶️ Casey no they still do the configuration profile but the way you do it is by going
⏹️ ▶️ Casey and generating a single site or single at password and then if i recall correctly it’s at the bottom
⏹️ ▶️ Casey of the page they’re like oh you can just do a profile too but i’ll have to go through the steps of creating the password in order
⏹️ ▶️ Casey to get to that point which i’m not sure maybe maybe this is fast mails one flaw i don’t know why that’s the way they do
⏹️ ▶️ Casey it when i set it up originally when i first joined fast meal just a few months ago that is not how i remember it happening but
⏹️ ▶️ Casey as we’ve established many times on the show my memory is garbage so who knows yeah
⏹️ ▶️ Marco well anyway i didn’t do so anyway i set it up just with like you know single password and regular you know custom map
⏹️ ▶️ Marco set up and everything and it was fine when my phone did remind me at the arbitrary time
⏹️ ▶️ Marco afterwards hey you want to transfer your watch over i was a little concerned because my phone manages
⏹️ ▶️ Marco two watches mine and my son’s through family set up oh and and family
⏹️ ▶️ Marco set up it’s one of those things you know like a lot of things that involve the watch it’s one of those things
⏹️ ▶️ Marco that seems kind of half baked and fragile and i don’t really want to mess with it more than
⏹️ ▶️ Marco i have to but i thought you know what you know will do it for the show let’s see what it actually
⏹️ ▶️ Marco does and it transferred his correctly but in the middle of
⏹️ ▶️ Marco transferring mine ios said hey we had this really important
⏹️ ▶️ Marco update for the iphone fourteen that fixes activation issues with messages and stuff you really should
⏹️ ▶️ Marco install this right now so i said okay forgetting that the washers in the middle of the
⏹️ ▶️ John transfer yeah i saw that notification a lot too during both of my set ups and i was like not today satan
⏹️ ▶️ John like there’s no thing cause i just knew like this is not the time to i knew
⏹️ ▶️ John what the update was about i had seen the bug reports and the like i understood for some people like they couldn’t get activated
⏹️ ▶️ John and they definitely need to do that but i know you want me to update it but i need to get everything settled before
⏹️ ▶️ John i even think about touching them
⏹️ ▶️ Marco well i touched it and it broke my watch set up and i had to i end up in the state
⏹️ ▶️ Marco that we’ve seen before and we’ve heard other people report where the watch thinks nothing is wrong
⏹️ ▶️ Marco but no phone thinks it’s fair to the watch neither the old one nor the new one thinks it has the watch
⏹️ ▶️ John i’ve been in that state many times with my wife’s watch and i don’t understand it and it is terrible
⏹️ ▶️ Marco yeah and as far as i can tell the only way to get out of the situation is to on the watch go to you know setting general
⏹️ ▶️ Marco reset erase the whole watch from it
⏹️ ▶️ John which feels totally wrong especially for someone like me who i don’t actually own a watch the only time i ever interact with it is
⏹️ ▶️ John when i’m trying to get it set up for my wife and she’s annoyed that it’s taking so long so
⏹️ ▶️ Marco exactly so i went through that and i had to you know reset my whole watch up which is a big pain
⏹️ ▶️ Marco in the butt not as big of a pain in the butt is trying to get all your slacks back in order but it is still a pain in the butt
⏹️ ▶️ Marco and uh so eventually i got that working and everything else went fine so overall it was only that weird
⏹️ ▶️ Marco watch hick up everything else went perfectly all my stuff did transfer with all the passwords
⏹️ ▶️ Marco and logins and everything including slack which for some reason never does but it included at this
⏹️ ▶️ Marco time so i was very pleased with the direct device to device transfer it worked with the one exception
⏹️ ▶️ Marco of the weird watch take up books i guess was partly my fault for accepting the software update um
⏹️ ▶️ Marco other than that is great
⏹️ ▶️ John i just post that image i know we’re going to talk about our experience with the phone but just one thing one thing
⏹️ ▶️ John that we don’t have a bullet item for that i think is worth me mentioning here begins i do not expect
⏹️ ▶️ John it take a look at this image i just put in the chat
⏹️ ▶️ Marco yeah okay it’s a star bar twelve forty one you have full five full bars
⏹️ ▶️ Marco and you know eighty percent battery
⏹️ ▶️ John so this was like oh maybe my second or third day of using my new phone
⏹️ ▶️ John and i thought something about my phone was broken because i there was something i couldn’t
⏹️ ▶️ John get again it was just a mental block this is twelve forty one as a time in the status bar that’s
⏹️ ▶️ John twelve forty one am look at my battery level
⏹️ ▶️ John i woke up in the morning and unplug my phone from my night stand charger and i use my phone all
⏹️ ▶️ John day like i normally do nothing weird about this particular day and
⏹️ ▶️ John i went from waking up in the morning at like seven a m to twelve forty
⏹️ ▶️ John one am the next day and i am at like eighty per cent charge
⏹️ ▶️ Casey oh oh i thought you had put it on the charger for a while when i was doing that optimized charging thing
⏹️ ▶️ John no this is just me using my phone it and the
⏹️ ▶️ John was broken for the first few days i was using my phone every time i looked at my phone the battery meter was full
⏹️ ▶️ John and like oh isn’t that great to have a fresh battery you know you got the twelve pro but the battery’s probably crappy now i got a nice
⏹️ ▶️ John fresh battery and this fourteen pro and everyone saying the fourteen pro battery life sucks
⏹️ ▶️ John, Casey same yeah like my thought
⏹️ ▶️ John maybe like i know that there was this big controversy were like putting the percentage in the thing and having not having the
⏹️ ▶️ John little like color filled the thing the color was always a hundred percent full but then the number would say you know sixty
⏹️ ▶️ John two but the the thing like i don’t have the number i’m like is my status bar broken why
⏹️ ▶️ John does my phone always show full charge and then on this day why was i up but twelve forty one
⏹️ ▶️ John i don’t know i was probably watching finishing watching a car rebuilding youtube video before going to bed ill advisedly
⏹️ ▶️ John right and i looked at my battery and like okay this is ridiculous how do i have
⏹️ ▶️ John eighty percent battery at twelve forty one am after waking up at seven and using my phone like
⏹️ ▶️ John i normally do how is that even happening who
⏹️ ▶️ John, Marco knows what are
⏹️ ▶️ Marco you doing then you’re fun like
⏹️ ▶️ Marco, John what you know doing
⏹️ ▶️ Marco yeah like you’re probably not running instagram definitely not one running ticket
⏹️ ▶️ John i didn’t i wasn’t using my phone any differently than i normally do in terms of which apps i use to look at the percentage
⏹️ ▶️ John it’s like you know you tube twitter ific like it’s like what i do with my phone messages whatever what’s what’s the answer
⏹️ ▶️ John what am i not remembering here
⏹️ ▶️ Marco do you have like a magsafe charger summer throughout the day that’s
⏹️ ▶️ John right my magsafe car charge
⏹️ ▶️ John a lot of driving around in my car there’s not anything different than a normal do driving to and from school
⏹️ ▶️ John going to the supermarket like you know like just normal daily errands right the difference
⏹️ ▶️ John says now every time i got in the car and just smacked my phone into that magnet it was
⏹️ ▶️ John charging they would never go down it would be a hundred percent all day long because my day is
⏹️ ▶️ John just constantly broken up by driving around and doing the normal sort of like errands and stuff and every
⏹️ ▶️ John time i was in the car i was on the magsafe and the trips were long enough to push it back a to a hundred percent this totally
⏹️ ▶️ John surprised me this has nothing to do with the phone obviously has everything to do with hey if you have a car and
⏹️ ▶️ John your phone has magsafe consider getting a magsafe charger that plugs into the u s b
⏹️ ▶️ John port in your car it may totally change your perception of your of your phone’s battery life
⏹️ ▶️ John if your day like mine involves driving around a lot
⏹️ ▶️ Casey yeah i did not even think about that that’s a good point because my preliminary experience and i’m jumping ahead of
⏹️ ▶️ Casey you a little bit but my preliminary experience is the battery i don’t feel like the battery is as good as my
⏹️ ▶️ Casey thirteen pro like i feel this is very unscientific very very unscientific but
⏹️ ▶️ Casey i feel like i am not doing as well but i’ve only had the phone since friday we’re recording
⏹️ ▶️ Casey on a wednesday i don’t know how much of the like processing happens on battery i don’t know how bad
⏹️ ▶️ Casey the always on display is i also have the a haptic keyboard i had the haptic keyboard on
⏹️ ▶️ Casey for most of the last few days maybe that’s causing not problems but causing a drain
⏹️ ▶️ Casey i don’t know but my
⏹️ ▶️ Casey, John experience problems
⏹️ ▶️ Casey i don’t i would not say that the battery has impressed me so far marco what has your experience been
⏹️ ▶️ Marco um i’m like you i’m still on the point where i’m assuming that there is a
⏹️ ▶️ Marco software bug or some kind of runaway process because my battery life has been pretty mediocre
⏹️ ▶️ Marco and my and on the thirteen pro it was pretty good most of the
⏹️ ▶️ Marco i’m i’m blaming this on you know iowa sixteen slash new phone set up you know who does
⏹️ ▶️ Marco and you know background processes you know whatever you know spotlight indexing whatever stuff is
⏹️ ▶️ Marco going on on a new installation in
⏹️ ▶️ John indexing your mail because they ever do have mail index
⏹️ ▶️ John, Marco the stuff they
⏹️ ▶️ Marco did yeah so so it’s my battery life is poor but it seems like
⏹️ ▶️ Marco it’s that type of poor not this phone is mediocre kind of
⏹️ ▶️ Marco um so you know i’m willing to give that a little while one thing while we’re on the topic of the always on
⏹️ ▶️ Marco screen what do you think about it so far
⏹️ ▶️ Casey i i don’t have a strong opinion about it to be honest with you
⏹️ ▶️ Casey i think if i have an opinion i slightly lean toward i don’t think i want
⏹️ ▶️ Casey to stick with it i am sticking with it for now but i don’t think it affords
⏹️ ▶️ Casey me a whole lot because every time i look at my phone generally speaking my notifications
⏹️ ▶️ Casey there are fewer on screen which is by design with i was sixteen which aesthetically i think is an improvement
⏹️ ▶️ Casey um but beyond that they’re they’re in the out forget the term for it but they’re in the like don’t show details mode
⏹️ ▶️ Casey and i think what i kind of expected and i understand why it’s not this way but i
⏹️ ▶️ Casey kind of expected that let’s say i have my phone on my desk and i have a what is it a twelfth
⏹️ ▶️ Casey south elevation dock or something like that it’s a very very old dock but it points the phone up at my face
⏹️ ▶️ Casey right you know what i’m saying it’s not just sitting flat on the desk desktop it’s pointed basically at me and
⏹️ ▶️ Casey i think i had expected that with the always on display if i looked down at the phone it would see i’m giving it
⏹️ ▶️ Casey attention it would you know scan my face and then it would show me the contents of all these notifications
⏹️ ▶️ Casey that are on my screen and it doesn’t do that it doesn’t just sit there looking to see if you’re looking at it it it waits
⏹️ ▶️ Casey until you touch it and i don’t i don’t love that like i understand why because
⏹️ ▶️ Casey it’d be a huge battery drain i’m sure to just sit there pinging away at the face id sensor but it it
⏹️ ▶️ Casey feels kind of it’s not what i expect it’s not what i expect at all and i’m going to stick
⏹️ ▶️ Casey with it for another week or two but i think i might end up turning the always on off what do you think
⏹️ ▶️ John here’s what i did on the first day was always on so i had already set up sixteen lock
⏹️ ▶️ John screens on my old phone right so i played with them a little bit but of course it changes the equation
⏹️ ▶️ John a little bit for always on because now you also have a new way to see your lock screen which is slightly dimmed
⏹️ ▶️ John and you know and selecting your religions may change based on what you might want to see on the slightly dim thing or whatever
⏹️ ▶️ John i played with that i did you know i made a couple of different setups that i thought
⏹️ ▶️ John would be good with always on the first problem i encountered was that the lock screens
⏹️ ▶️ John i had made for io sixteen and my twelve pro is pictures of my family which
⏹️ ▶️ John i think maybe we talked about it in the last show i don’t have any photos that fit a long skinny lock screen
⏹️ ▶️ John use you know ai extensions of backgrounds to get the right arrangement but anyway pictures of my family and
⏹️ ▶️ John the cool picture feature of i s sixteen is you can make it to the lock screen like has several pictures
⏹️ ▶️ John and rotates through them so you don’t have to pick just one so i just put everything in my family on that was nice um
⏹️ ▶️ John the problem with that is and i said last week like i keep thinking i’m getting a call telephone
⏹️ ▶️ John call always on screen exacerbates that because when my phone sitting a on a surface and
⏹️ ▶️ John it’s always on and i glance at it and i see a picture of my wife like oh my wife’s calling i must not have heard the phone vibrate
⏹️ ▶️ John no my wife’s not calling she’s just the lock screen and it’s always on right i expect my
⏹️ ▶️ John phone to be you know dark you know total black screen when it’s sitting on the table next
⏹️ ▶️ John to me only light up when a phone is in a calls incoming right i did put a
⏹️ ▶️ John bunch of other stuff there to see if there was utility that i could extract from having a screen
⏹️ ▶️ John that was always on and i don’t think i ever like maybe it’s a habit
⏹️ ▶️ John i need to get into like oh maybe i don’t glance at it because i don’t expect there to be anything in there and now that there is i’ll
⏹️ ▶️ John glance at it and maybe when third parties have better widgets on the lock screen i’ll do but for now i’m not getting a lot of telly
⏹️ ▶️ John out of it this is day one with a tone like i just got to give it a little bit of time so when i went to
⏹️ ▶️ John bed on day one you know i put my phone on my nightstand as i always do i plugged it in as i charged with the
⏹️ ▶️ John cable at night and then i realized what wait a second that screen’s not going to go
⏹️ ▶️ John off and yes i could turn my phone over with the screen down but sometimes
⏹️ ▶️ John you wake up in the night and you want to like you know look at something or like i don’t know it’s just
⏹️ ▶️ John that was the last straw for me i lasted less than twenty four hours with the always on screen i said no i can’t
⏹️ ▶️ John i can’t have even just admitting the light into the room and it’s like if it’s going to be always on but i don’t want the
⏹️ ▶️ John light and i put it facing down now you got light leaking out of the little edges and it’s like well what’s the and if you’re
⏹️ ▶️ John going to face it down what’s the point of it being always on anyway and i said i can’t i’m not ready for this i can’t
⏹️ ▶️ John do it i don’t it’s not you know again i didn’t give it a good chance which was less than twenty four
⏹️ ▶️ John hours but the bedside stand i cannot have my screen on during that time if they had a special feature for always
⏹️ ▶️ John on and said always on except when you’re sleeping maybe
⏹️ ▶️ John, Casey have left it on the i learned
⏹️ ▶️ John it off and i haven’t looked back and i don’t miss it right i hadn’t you know you know i grant i don’t i don’t think i
⏹️ ▶️ John gave it a good chance but i would much rather have not that i really needed apparently but
⏹️ ▶️ John i’d much rather have the tiny amount of additional battery life that i may be getting from not having the always on screen
⏹️ ▶️ John then whatever utility i could extract from having that screen so i’m back to the old way and i
⏹️ ▶️ Casey so they do have that mode where it automatically goes all the way off when you’re sleeping and that is when you have a sleep
⏹️ ▶️ John i do not have a sleep focus
⏹️ ▶️ Casey, John mode eventually
⏹️ ▶️ John don’t have a sleep focus or i don’t use focus modes i don’t have a sleep thing i don’t do sleep tracking and that’s all intentional
⏹️ ▶️ John because i don’t i try that stuff and i don’t know a lot of people prefer to have their phone operate differently
⏹️ ▶️ John during different scenarios like this but i found that i don’t prefer that so
⏹️ ▶️ Casey i might be mis speaking i don’t know if it’s a sleep focus or sleep mode but maybe its sleep
⏹️ ▶️ Casey mode it’s i think it predates the focus but one way or another when your phone is of the opinion that
⏹️ ▶️ Casey you are sleeping and it enters whatever sleep mode you’re supposed to be in then it will turn
⏹️ ▶️ Casey the screen all the way
⏹️ ▶️ John back i mean cause i plugged it and put on my night stand and just went to try to go to sleep and then it was just like
⏹️ ▶️ John shining at me maybe if i had given it fifteen more minutes it would have turned off but i never gave you that chance i’m like that’s
⏹️ ▶️ John it because i was already on the edge i was area on the edge of saying maybe i just want to turn this off but that was just the last straw
⏹️ ▶️ John and i’m like nope you would not you will not be let up on my nightstand
⏹️ ▶️ Casey also the the screen will turn itself all the way off when the the phone is upset out yeah
⏹️ ▶️ John anyway like i said if you’re going to do that anyway like then what’s the point like why have the always on screen is not providing any value
⏹️ ▶️ John, Marco don’t want it
⏹️ ▶️ John to be facing down i want to be facing it i want to be able to tap it and make it come awake and maybe like scratch my
⏹️ ▶️ John little head over to his face i as me so i can see where that notification is from is
⏹️ ▶️ John all like habits built from i guess from the iphone ten on right the fact that the screen does wake up
⏹️ ▶️ John when you touch it that face id will scan you and you know where it is on my night stand is just those habits
⏹️ ▶️ John are still pretty well ingrained so i’m going to just grab the little sliver of battery life until
⏹️ ▶️ John some other reason compels me to enable that future
⏹️ ▶️ Casey all right margot i do want to go back to transfer stuff for a second but before we do why don’t we finish our thoughts about the
⏹️ ▶️ Marco so so first of all to try to solve the nightstand issue i didn’t know that
⏹️ ▶️ Marco the sleep i haven’t quite nailed down like when the phone is in like sleep mode for me
⏹️ ▶️ Marco cause the only two focus modes i have are nothing and do not disturb
⏹️ ▶️ Marco and i have auto do not disturb during a set hour range at night when i’m sleeping
⏹️ ▶️ Marco and so what i did for that which and maybe i should be doing this with a sleep focus instead
⏹️ ▶️ Marco but what i what i the way i set that up before knowing this two seconds ago was
⏹️ ▶️ Marco i just changed my lock screen fording it disturb to have a black solid background
⏹️ ▶️ Marco and then that and that that way i can still see you
⏹️ ▶️ John probably also do this from from shortcuts too like isn’t there a short cut for like when when you’re in do not disturb mode
⏹️ ▶️ John run the shortcut and the shortcut could maybe the shortcut can even turn off the os on display like it’s probably
⏹️ ▶️ John, Marco shortcut yeah there is yes
⏹️ ▶️ Marco maybe but yeah so i just had like a separate screen i this saw black and reduced the
⏹️ ▶️ Marco number of wits down to basically nothing except my alarm and that’s it and
⏹️ ▶️ Marco it’s fine but you know i never knew like i can’t i haven’t figured out like when it when the screen was actually
⏹️ ▶️ Marco on like i woke up in the middle of the night last night and i wanted to see what time it was and the screen was
⏹️ ▶️ Marco off so i had to tap it to wake it up to see the time and i thought that was kind of anyway maybe maybe the phone
⏹️ ▶️ Marco has some concept of when i’m asleep that i didn’t set up anyway i’ll look into that but going back to
⏹️ ▶️ Marco the with on screen itself i am not usually a
⏹️ ▶️ Marco leave the phone on the table of kind of person like usually like the phones in my pocket and i
⏹️ ▶️ Marco take it out when i’m using it in which case on one area that i have found it to be useful is
⏹️ ▶️ Marco when when i’m showering i prop the phone up on a shelf to play podcasts
⏹️ ▶️ Marco and i’m able now to see what time it is so if i if i have to be somewhere and i’m taking a quick
⏹️ ▶️ Marco shower before i go there i now have a clock that i can see the whole time
⏹️ ▶️ Marco not just within a minute or two when i last tapped it so
⏹️ ▶️ John of the world’s quietest shower i cannot imagine even at max volume
⏹️ ▶️ John, Casey beale to hear
⏹️ ▶️ John and understand a podcast while in the shower with a phone that is not in the shower with me
⏹️ ▶️ Marco no it’s in the shower there’s a sh a it’s an outdoor shower it’s a whole thing
⏹️ ▶️ John my new recommend ion is don’t bring your phone in the shower with you get a get a sonos rom
⏹️ ▶️ Marco no the phone is the phone speaker and now the phones are pretty waterproof as long as you don’t get water
⏹️ ▶️ Marco in the speaker which makes it sound like crap and very muffled for
⏹️ ▶️ Marco, John a little while
⏹️ ▶️ John propped up and in a water rich environment is just gonna like slip and fall to the floor you shower and shatter
⏹️ ▶️ Marco it’s far enough away from the water spray that
⏹️ ▶️ John i’m telling you get sunroom is expensive although i often have discounts so you should talk to me about
⏹️ ▶️ John that but anyway it has better sound quality than an iphone you should at least
⏹️ ▶️ Marco appreciate that it’s not that much better anyway so the sun host rome is not better than the iphone’s built
⏹️ ▶️ Marco the little toblerone bars at the room
⏹️ ▶️ Marco, John yes that’s the room
⏹️ ▶️ Marco no it’s not that much better
⏹️ ▶️ Marco, John it is a better on iphone
⏹️ ▶️ Marco speakers are actually there for podcasts they’re great for music they’re ok you know
⏹️ ▶️ Marco in the shower context it’s fine like i used to use this whole category of like cheap bluetooth
⏹️ ▶️ Marco waterproof speakers that you like you know some of the hand like a suction cup you could put on the wall the
⏹️ ▶️ John, Marco though i know i
⏹️ ▶️ Marco know yeah nothing but phone is cheap but anyway like you know all of that um you know the whole category of
⏹️ ▶️ Marco like inexpensive waterproof bluetooth speakers that whole category now is made
⏹️ ▶️ Marco irrelevant by modern iphones being water resistant and having pretty decent speakers on
⏹️ ▶️ John them so weird with your audio things so you you insist on these super expensive headphones but you way
⏹️ ▶️ John you listen to podcasts through the phones built in speakers
⏹️ ▶️ Casey yeah i’m team john on this one
⏹️ ▶️ Marco boggles my mind a lot a of lot of people do it anyway so
⏹️ ▶️ Marco the biggest problem i have with the always on screen is that you have as asquith was
⏹️ ▶️ Marco saying it looks like it’s interactive and so when i try to interact with it i
⏹️ ▶️ Marco can’t yet i have to tap it first to wake it up or lift it in such a way that that makes it wake up
⏹️ ▶️ Marco and so so often i need to tap it and just wait and i wait for it to animate
⏹️ ▶️ Marco in and it’s very frustrating and and i i don’t i don’t know what the solution
⏹️ ▶️ Marco to that is that’s actually doable you know like i don’t see it’s a hard
⏹️ ▶️ Marco problem and i’m not sure you know how to solve
⏹️ ▶️ John think that’s a policy choice though i don’t think there’s a tech thing stopping them from having it be responsive immediately
⏹️ ▶️ John because like the phone is running the screen is on it’s obviously sensitive to your touches they’ve just chosen
⏹️ ▶️ John to say the first i mean maybe that’s like for to avoid accidental input or a similar type of stuff
⏹️ ▶️ John because like you know you think your phone is in basically the off locked position you don’t want
⏹️ ▶️ John a clumsy grab to start an interaction but i don’t think there’s any tech barrier to them implementing
⏹️ ▶️ John that you eye policy which has first touch counts it goes through it it lets you interact with
⏹️ ▶️ Marco yeah i mean i’m sure there are reasons like that that that you know i’m sure they considered it
⏹️ ▶️ Marco may be tested it figured out it wasn’t worth it
⏹️ ▶️ John maybe or maybe they cranking down the frequency of the touch sensor and you know you know they crack down the screen
⏹️ ▶️ John refresh to be one hurts maybe the touch sensitivity is down to one hurts to to also save a battery that could be a tax
⏹️ ▶️ Marco know or maybe you know that would be kind of responsive when you tap screen to wake up maybe it’s like you know ten hurt that’s
⏹️ ▶️ Marco still way less than the usual rate of you know six year one twenty so
⏹️ ▶️ John isn’t like two hundred forty knots on the ipad the
⏹️ ▶️ John, Marco ipad that’s the pencil w fresh rate
⏹️ ▶️ Marco anyway so yeah so it’s that part is weird to me i also found i
⏹️ ▶️ Marco left it on sixteen point o for the first couple days and now on the sixteen point one beta
⏹️ ▶️ Marco on sixteen point oh it was very buggy like the owens i had tons of always
⏹️ ▶️ Marco on screen bugs where it wouldn’t wake up or it would wake up and all the notifications would be square
⏹️ ▶️ Marco and then they would pop in as round and like there are tons of like rendering problems like it was super
⏹️ ▶️ Marco buggy and sixteen bono but sixteen point one beta seems to be better in that respect some guessing
⏹️ ▶️ Marco that was just you know things coming in pretty hot for the release of of the phones but yet so overall i
⏹️ ▶️ Marco like lock screen widgets i like having an always on clock on the phone
⏹️ ▶️ Marco everything else you know about the always on screen like it is kind of a mixed bag i haven’t noticed
⏹️ ▶️ Marco particular battery problems with it we’ll see i do wish there was an option
⏹️ ▶️ Marco to have a either a black background or at least let me set a different wallpaper
⏹️ ▶️ Marco for locked mode then for active mode because that would solve your wife waking up the phone with you
⏹️ ▶️ Marco know or your wife’s looking like a phone call problem
⏹️ ▶️ John exactly and also the light emitting like that i mean that’s basically how most android phones especially the
⏹️ ▶️ John initial batch of them many years ago i did they’re always on screen to save by your life is that they basically
⏹️ ▶️ John force you to have an all black screen with some dim letters and that’s what we thought apple was going to do i’m kind of surprised
⏹️ ▶️ John we talked about that yeah when they said no it’s going to be just like literally your full image like it’s
⏹️ ▶️ John it’s weird that they don’t even give you the option to differentiate that kind of the same way it’s weird that they pair that you
⏹️ ▶️ John have to assign these pairs of like lock screen and home screen because i always want my home screen
⏹️ ▶️ John to be a hundred cent black but every time i make a new lock screen i have to re specify that over and over again
⏹️ ▶️ Marco i don’t just want the black background when when i’m don’t disturb
⏹️ ▶️ Marco the black background always when it is locked and then when i wake it up i want it to be my nice weather
⏹️ ▶️ Marco face from when i a sixteen like that that i want and and that would also help
⏹️ ▶️ Marco distinguish when it’s not awake so that that can help help tell me like
⏹️ ▶️ Marco i can’t touch this in this mode if touching this will do nothing yeah
⏹️ ▶️ John cause it doesn’t look like it doesn’t look like a screamed it’s like oh my i on is on i can drag it it looks like a lock
⏹️ ▶️ John tree looks like a sort of idol you know i’m just i’m just now a dumb clock with some witches on yeah
⏹️ ▶️ Marco it’s funny literally one second ago it turned nine thirty p m and my screen just
⏹️ ▶️ Marco changed to my automation disturb mode and so it just turned
⏹️ ▶️ Marco, Casey all black right
⏹️ ▶️ Marco about that and it looks so much better in the in the all black mode when it’s sitting there at my desk
⏹️ ▶️ Marco you know locked it looks so much better so
⏹️ ▶️ Marco i mean maybe i’ll just give up and just not have a lock screen wallpaper anymore and
⏹️ ▶️ Marco just have it always be black and see if that works but i do love that weather lock screen and
⏹️ ▶️ Marco i was sixteen when the phone is active in my hand i love that so maybe i don’t know
⏹️ ▶️ Marco i’ll play with it but that’s the one thing yet it not being interactive and it
⏹️ ▶️ Marco having to only be your wallpaper and not having like a separate you know solid color
⏹️ ▶️ Marco black mode or something like that those are my my wishlist items and and i don’t know how they
⏹️ ▶️ Marco can solve the interactive part but i do wish they would solve the you know solid color preference
⏹️ ▶️ Casey to go back very quickly to the transfer process i forgot to mention earlier when the transfer
⏹️ ▶️ Casey was happening and this happened for both aaron and myself and even for a few hours
⏹️ ▶️ Casey after the transfer i found that both of us were returning back to a terrible
⏹️ ▶️ Casey terrible time from years ago we were missing text messages
⏹️ ▶️ Casey yes but what it gets worse i can’t blame this on android fans this time we
⏹️ ▶️ Casey were missing i messages we were activated like we could
⏹️ ▶️ Casey send messages back and forth to each other but we are in a couple of group chats together
⏹️ ▶️ Casey and one of us would miss like an hour or two or three worth of time in the group
⏹️ ▶️ Casey chats this seems knock on wood to have righted itself i immediately did the sixteen
⏹️ ▶️ Casey point point one upgrade or whatever that update was you guys were talking about earlier where they were like oh
⏹️ ▶️ Casey my gosh you won’t be able to eye message unless you put this update in yesterday we did that on both the phones i
⏹️ ▶️ Casey don’t know what happened and i think it’s resolved itself but even on saturday this is
⏹️ ▶️ Casey almost a full twenty four hours actually i think it was a full twenty four hours after we had gotten our phones
⏹️ ▶️ Casey even then i was missing a bunch of messages from a group chat and i message only group chat it hasn’t
⏹️ ▶️ Casey happened since i think saturday morning for me but it has happened that was really
⏹️ ▶️ Casey weird and very unusual and i did not like it also while i’m talking one other thing i meant to bring up
⏹️ ▶️ Casey earlier and then i think we can finally move on to talk about the dynamic island in store pickup when you live
⏹️ ▶️ Casey in a not humongous populated area oh my gosh it was so great i ended
⏹️ ▶️ Casey up getting if you recall my tale of woe where i ordered an extra phone by accident but for shipping
⏹️ ▶️ Casey well anyways i had ordered what i believe to be our two true phones yet one one per person
⏹️ ▶️ Casey and i did that for an eight forty five in store pickup i showed up at like eight thirty thinking oh that it’s going
⏹️ ▶️ Casey to be a zoo and they’re going to kick me out and say wait around for fifteen minutes at the apple
⏹️ ▶️ Casey store near me they could not have cared less that that i was they didn’t even ask me what
⏹️ ▶️ Casey time it was for in fact i’m pretty sure i had overheard somebody say to like
⏹️ ▶️ Casey a fellow employee we don’t care what time it is as long as it’s for today so i hypothetically could
⏹️ ▶️ Casey have gotten like a three pm uh you know like a pick up appointment and i don’t think i would have been turned
⏹️ ▶️ Casey away at eight thirty in the morning but anyway i was in and out in the span of like twenty
⏹️ ▶️ Casey minutes and it was amazing and i had my iphone in my hand but before nine o’clock
⏹️ ▶️ Casey in the morning and when again if you recall where we live we don’t get u p s shipments
⏹️ ▶️ Casey until like five six seven o’clock at night so i had an extra twelve hours month on my phone that i wouldn’t have had otherwise
⏹️ ▶️ Casey and for the first time possibly ever maybe since like the five s whenever i’d done in the in store
⏹️ ▶️ Casey pickup line last i was one of the first people to have my phone instead of all of my
⏹️ ▶️ Casey friends even the many on the west coast getting their phones before me and making me very jealous
⏹️ ▶️ Casey am i really recommend if you live in a regular place the
⏹️ ▶️ Casey train store pickup it works super well now if you’re trying to go to like fifth avenue or covent garden or whatever it i
⏹️ ▶️ Casey bet this experience would not be quite so pleasurable but if you live in a you know normal sized place i
⏹️ ▶️ Casey really really recommend it
⏹️ ▶️ John i have one more set up things well i totally forgot about this probably blocked it out after i had done this second
⏹️ ▶️ John set up after i wiped and did device device transfer um there were still a couple of
⏹️ ▶️ John clean up settings that i need to do and test flights and stuff and the second time around
⏹️ ▶️ John not the first time around the first time i did this immediately but the second time around i had forgot until a little
⏹️ ▶️ John bit after i had started doing set up oh yeah i’ve got a to rename this phone because for whatever reason the apple has not yet cracked
⏹️ ▶️ John the algorithm of my phone naming scheme which is john’s iphone number
⏹️ ▶️ John of iphone and so when i do when i do device to device transfer
⏹️ ▶️ John my new phone is called john’s iphone twelve pro parentheses too
⏹️ ▶️ John good job ab excellent use that machine learning but you now see go into
⏹️ ▶️ John settings general about and change it to john’s iphone fourteen pro and i did
⏹️ ▶️ John that i was like iphone but then as i was wandering around settings looking at other things i noticed
⏹️ ▶️ John and also i was looking on the website or whatever my eye cloud back up and my device list
⏹️ ▶️ John and everything having to do with like the eye cloud knowledge of this device says john iphone
⏹️ ▶️ John twelve pro twelve pro princes two everywhere says it on the website says
⏹️ ▶️ John it on if you look at icloud backup you know on my phone says fourteen pro right
⏹️ ▶️ John when i pair my phone with my car says iphone john’s iphone fourteen pro but every place else
⏹️ ▶️ John on apple service incarnation of this phone it says john’s iphone twelve pro pretties too
⏹️ ▶️ John and again i try to sit with it and like oh i’ll probably fix itself in an hour or two eventually i didn’t
⏹️ ▶️ John i’m like this cannot stand i can’t i can’t have this i can’t go to like you know
⏹️ ▶️ John whatever the equivalent of support profile at apple dot com and see my devices listed cause inevitably
⏹️ ▶️ John i’ll get confused and say oh john i one twelve pro i should get rid of that it’s not mine anymore i transferred it to my son i
⏹️ ▶️ John should delete that device and ordered up deleting like my actual phone it has to say fourteen pro
⏹️ ▶️ John and it wouldn’t so there i am googling again finding desperate people and apple support threads having
⏹️ ▶️ John the exact same problem from three years ago the only thing i could find you know a
⏹️ ▶️ John lot of the people have like ah you know suggests resolutions and then the thread ends and you never hear
⏹️ ▶️ John like there’s never any conclusion to the threat of like well did you try that did it work the only thing
⏹️ ▶️ John i saw that someone said they did that worked and you guess what it is of course can you guess what it is restarting
⏹️ ▶️ Casey you starting the phone
⏹️ ▶️ John no i wish it was that easy of course i did that already no signing out of my club
⏹️ ▶️ John on my newly set up second time around phone i had to sign out a eye cloud
⏹️ ▶️ John that’s no fun then sign back in and we all know how painful that is oh yeah
⏹️ ▶️ John and it was just just another like three and a half hours of just
⏹️ ▶️ John getting everything in going to my preferred playlist and making it download waiting for message to think
⏹️ ▶️ John that long period of time when you launch messages and everything is phone numbers and your contacts still aren’t there and you’re
⏹️ ▶️ John wondering if it’s going to work and then an hour later finally it springs into existence this is all
⏹️ ▶️ John because the phone like oh i even did the thing of like maybe as big as did an eye cloud back up with the old name
⏹️ ▶️ John and i just need to do a new eye cloud back up then i now i tried everything before i gave up and signed out of eye cloud but
⏹️ ▶️ John that’s the only thing i did that worked i tried everything else restarting the phone doing a new eye cloud back
⏹️ ▶️ John up like changing the name again and just like just everything i could think of everything i could find nothing
⏹️ ▶️ John worked apple’s serviceid incarnation maybe if i had waited forty eight hours or a week it would have eventually
⏹️ ▶️ John gotten a clue but i couldn’t risk apples i would have just forgot about it i had to sign out of icon and back in
⏹️ ▶️ John so i would suggest my second ingestion one use device dice transferring to immediately
⏹️ ▶️ John go to settings general about and change the name of your phone to not be your old full name princes
⏹️ ▶️ Casey right let’s talk to amok island um for me i i
⏹️ ▶️ Casey like it is now but i think i’m going to really like it in the future
⏹️ ▶️ Casey and i notice that generally speaking i don’t think much of it when i’m watching full screen
⏹️ ▶️ Casey video i don’t think i like it because often times i find it more obtrusive than the notch or
⏹️ ▶️ Casey the the static peninsula excuse me but um there the handful of occasions where
⏹️ ▶️ Casey i’ve been playing a podcast or listening to music or whatever and you start to get that live
⏹️ ▶️ Casey activity stuff on the sides of you know the normal dynamic island that is super cool
⏹️ ▶️ Casey when you start doing multiple things at the same time when you’ve got a timer running and you’re listening to overcast
⏹️ ▶️ Casey holy cow having this like multitasking switcher at the top of your
⏹️ ▶️ Casey screen is super super cool and i am really loving that and
⏹️ ▶️ Casey so hopefully this won’t be used you know i won’t be abused by third party
⏹️ ▶️ Casey developers and i don’t think there’s going to be a lot of opportunity to abuse it but my goodness it is super
⏹️ ▶️ Casey duper cool when you’ve got multiple things happening at once the only complaint i have is the same complaint
⏹️ ▶️ Casey to everyone else has which is i wish they reversed a touch and hold and tap
⏹️ ▶️ Casey so if you touch and hold that’s when you get this like expanded widget thing and when
⏹️ ▶️ Casey you tap it just opens the ap i totally get why they did that and why that’s the default but i
⏹️ ▶️ Casey hope if nothing else we could have a switch which i know apple’s mostly allergic to but have a switch to
⏹️ ▶️ Casey reverse that where if i tap i get the little widget thing so i can just quickly interact with something and
⏹️ ▶️ Casey then if i touch and hold that’s when i open up the entire ap because it makes more sense to me right like a
⏹️ ▶️ Casey tap is a shorter gesture i want to spend less time with what i’m doing so i just want to tap
⏹️ ▶️ Casey you know hit fast forward and rewind and overcast and then tap again elsewhere and
⏹️ ▶️ Casey go away in contrast what i have to do is i have to tap and hold wait a beat
⏹️ ▶️ Casey and then i get my little you know widget area or whatever and then i can tap away to go
⏹️ ▶️ John i prefer it this way because what i end up doing is bouncing back and forth like for example bouncing back and forth from
⏹️ ▶️ John like you know navigation to overcast or something i don’t you know and
⏹️ ▶️ John even when i’m just using like using it as a multi tasking like bounce back and forth a switcher i
⏹️ ▶️ John even if that setting existed i think i would believe it is the default
⏹️ ▶️ Casey interesting okay fair enough in marco i do want to hear what you have to say about that in a second all in all i think
⏹️ ▶️ Casey the dynamic island today where the only things that are really up there are like media
⏹️ ▶️ Casey apps that kind of get it for free it’s it’s cool it’s nice whatever but i really really
⏹️ ▶️ Casey think once we start getting like sports scores up there and lift arrivals and doordash arrivals
⏹️ ▶️ Casey then i really think it’s going to come into its own and it’s going to be super duper cool marco what are
⏹️ ▶️ Casey your thoughts and how do you how do you feel about the tap versus long press thing
⏹️ ▶️ Marco so i see what everyone’s saying about that but i think apple has it right in terms of the pressing
⏹️ ▶️ Marco they’ve already set so if you look at like the kind of things this replaces you know we used to have
⏹️ ▶️ Marco i think it’s gone now with this change but but we used to have those little like
⏹️ ▶️ Marco back buttons on the upper left of the satis bar if you came from an ap can you nap for
⏹️ ▶️ Marco, John another and tapping that on
⏹️ ▶️ Marco it still there oh it is tapping that would go to that app meanwhile if you have
⏹️ ▶️ Marco like some kind of control center widget say you usually a long
⏹️ ▶️ Marco press will expand it into a bigger blob whereas a tap will like do that thing or go to that
⏹️ ▶️ Marco thing so i think the way they have it now fits with precedent
⏹️ ▶️ Marco of other behaviors on ios where tap means open and long press
⏹️ ▶️ Marco means like expand like or go into in a different way like so
⏹️ ▶️ Marco what it’s mainly for i think is display first of all but i think the interaction
⏹️ ▶️ Marco i think it’s mostly for quick switching between the apps and that’s that’s what i see it
⏹️ ▶️ Marco as and and that’s that’s what it does that’s what optimized for now you could make a case oh maybe i should you know open
⏹️ ▶️ Marco by default in the little you know expanded view before it jumps over to the ap but the
⏹️ ▶️ Marco way to do it now fitz president and so far i haven’t done a lot of multitasking yet but
⏹️ ▶️ Marco like you casey when it has happened that i’ve that i’ve had something running up there it really
⏹️ ▶️ Marco is delightful as for the you know my actual app um
⏹️ ▶️ Marco audio aps get this this thing for free i actually do to a word in the middle
⏹️ ▶️ Marco of a whole bunch of like family travel and events happening and so i haven’t had a chance to dive into the api
⏹️ ▶️ Marco yet but i’m thinking it might not be worth audio apps making their
⏹️ ▶️ Marco own because if it would replace the existing one i think anything
⏹️ ▶️ Marco we make would be worse because we don’t have the ability to update it as quickly as apple does
⏹️ ▶️ Marco and so the cool thing to do with like little level meters that are actually real finally for the first time anywhere in ios
⏹️ ▶️ Marco ever besides my ap i can’t i don’t think the pi allows me to update things that quickly
⏹️ ▶️ Marco and send the data that quickly so i don’t think i could do that if i made my
⏹️ ▶️ Marco own and i might be able to do you know other custom things here and there that i might not be able to do with you know
⏹️ ▶️ Marco the the control center a p i t t that’s there now but i think it will be minimal so i’m probably not going to make my own custom
⏹️ ▶️ Marco thing there and and audio aps i think unless i’m wrong about you know what we can and can’t do i
⏹️ ▶️ Marco don’t see audio as doing a lot with that but i see a lot of other apps doing
⏹️ ▶️ Marco a lot with that and that is what i’m looking forward to and frankly even if it’s
⏹️ ▶️ Marco not well adopted by third parties which i think it will be but even if it’s not and even until
⏹️ ▶️ Marco it is even just having apples built in apps having support for it is extremely
⏹️ ▶️ Marco useful and i find that to be to be very very nice and i don’t
⏹️ ▶️ Marco i don’t otherwise notice it that much in my day to day use like i i see
⏹️ ▶️ Marco you know if i have a face id unlock or something you know
⏹️ ▶️ Marco balloons out of there and that’s that’s fun but otherwise i really don’t notice it which i think
⏹️ ▶️ Casey yeah and when it does do any sort of dancing like that whole dynamic nature is
⏹️ ▶️ Casey super cool and super well done and i and i really do like it a lot but i really think it’s going to come into its
⏹️ ▶️ Casey own in the future when third parties really can embrace it john and he thought
⏹️ ▶️ John yeah so there’s two things that an island
⏹️ ▶️ John brings to the table they’re kind of combined when people talk about it but i think it’s useful to separate
⏹️ ▶️ John them one is a lot of the things you guys already talked about there’s more info in you eye
⏹️ ▶️ John ments at the top of your screen that are visible all the time right and that is made possible
⏹️ ▶️ John by the fact that the the non screen portion like the you know the face id
⏹️ ▶️ John thing in the camera is narrower than it has ever been the not getting narrower
⏹️ ▶️ John and getting you know making more room for stuff in the ears but this little lozenge even if
⏹️ ▶️ John it wasn’t like lower down it’s narrower still so there are more pixels available there
⏹️ ▶️ John and one of the things apple did was they used those pixels that are available there not to re expand the status
⏹️ ▶️ John bar like it used to be when it used to be full with but instead to say i have a better idea for
⏹️ ▶️ John things that we can put on the top of your phone that are always visible
⏹️ ▶️ John now that we have this room in the in the modern phone like in the post iphone ten era
⏹️ ▶️ John what can we put up there right and their choice was you can put it a little thing up there that you can use to switch back and
⏹️ ▶️ John forth as you can put the little now playing thing you can allow third parties to do it
⏹️ ▶️ John everyone seems to love that because the idea of having more useful like globally visible
⏹️ ▶️ John information is a crowd pleaser like there’s a reason people like the fact that
⏹️ ▶️ John you can put little icons in your menu bar on the mac the menu bars up there it’s space that’s going to be used anyway
⏹️ ▶️ John people like to be able to stick stuff up there now they like to build six of their choosing and rearrange it the
⏹️ ▶️ John iphones not there yet maybe the ipad will get there some day if it ever has a nachi or if it ever has a
⏹️ ▶️ John los angelos i doubt it will but like the idea of allowing you
⏹️ ▶️ John to see more stuff and do more things without leaving the app that you’re in
⏹️ ▶️ John thumbs up everybody loves it right and that and they say well it’s limited now but it’ll
⏹️ ▶️ John get even better with third parties as you said there is a second aspect of the team island is
⏹️ ▶️ John the way they’ve chosen to do that is to combine
⏹️ ▶️ John a sort of you know fashion accessory to hide the fact that they have a
⏹️ ▶️ John cut out in the screen by saying okay we’re going to have more info there but we’re going to make it look like that info
⏹️ ▶️ John is in this black lozenge thing that by the way hides the middle part
⏹️ ▶️ John you wonder why there’s never anything displayed there has not screened there but like you don’t need to know that just you won’t you won’t even
⏹️ ▶️ John notice that you just think hey they just put stuff at the edges right and they’ll be the cute animations and the wiggling and the blob
⏹️ ▶️ John will split and the little ball will come off and all that adorable stuff right and that is nice and whimsical
⏹️ ▶️ John and fun and these two things get put together people love seeing extra info and
⏹️ ▶️ John people love the fun whimsy and animation or whatever of the stuff there and i agree all those things are good
⏹️ ▶️ John where i have a problem with it is that the other things that they do with
⏹️ ▶️ John this that don’t relate to showing more information at the top of your phone
⏹️ ▶️ John like lean super heavily into the idea of the hiding of
⏹️ ▶️ John the stuff there so for example when you do face side do you know a thing that used to they used to just do an
⏹️ ▶️ John overlay on your screen and you’d see like whatever the little happy face thing is and it would do face id right
⏹️ ▶️ John for this phone they decided we’re going to incorporate that into the dynamic island so now when you do
⏹️ ▶️ John face id the law’s int in the top expands downward kinda like the naic peninsula
⏹️ ▶️ John might do expands downward to be the face id thing and then goes back up the aesthetic
⏹️ ▶️ John result of that is that there is a black hole at the top of your phone that periodically expands
⏹️ ▶️ John into a very large gaping black hole and it has to be one hundred per cent black
⏹️ ▶️ John because the whole point is it’s hiding you know the sensor arrays that are up there right there
⏹️ ▶️ John is very little historically a hundred per cent black on your phone in fact if you’re doing driving directions when
⏹️ ▶️ John apple maps puts like the quote unquote black overlay out there that says two miles right turn exit fifty
⏹️ ▶️ John four right that’s not black it’s almost black but not quite black
⏹️ ▶️ John and the reason you know that is because you can see the actual black lozenge the of the damac
⏹️ ▶️ John island punched out in the middle of the almost black directions so when that big thing comes
⏹️ ▶️ John down for face id it is an unprecedented intrusion of blackness of a gaping
⏹️ ▶️ John completely you know zero zero zero black hole on our phone i don’t
⏹️ ▶️ John find it particularly nice to see that black hole opening up on the top of my phone it feels like an invasion of
⏹️ ▶️ John a black goo i find it aesthetically less pleasing and the animation less pleasant
⏹️ ▶️ John and less pretty than the previous phase of the animation repeat this for every
⏹️ ▶️ John other thing that they do that used to be done without incorporating the dynamic and
⏹️ ▶️ John that now they decide to say oh that’s not a thing that appears on your screen it actually
⏹️ ▶️ John comes out of or is the result of the growth of the dynamic island and it results in a
⏹️ ▶️ John one hundred percent black eye element appearing in various sizes and shapes near the top of my phone that
⏹️ ▶️ John is unrelated to the cool stuff about the dynamic island which is hey now i can see more stuff now i can get
⏹️ ▶️ John more status information like all that stuff is good what i disagree with is one of the things
⏹️ ▶️ John that people think is so clever the aesthetic design decision to say now a bunch
⏹️ ▶️ John of you eye elements on the phone that previously were not a hundred per cent black are going to be a hundred per cent black
⏹️ ▶️ John and i don’t think it fits is it the end of the world no we’ll get used to it it will be fine
⏹️ ▶️ John but i was surprised at how much that bothered me from sort of a you know
⏹️ ▶️ John just a beauty perspective a fashion perspective a feeling
⏹️ ▶️ John perspective because it’s really without any historical precedent and i think for good reason that apple
⏹️ ▶️ John has avoided ever doing anything a hundred per cent black because there is not part of their design language of i o s or the iphone
⏹️ ▶️ John but now suddenly it is i think it works in small doses and it works as the status part to hide the elements
⏹️ ▶️ John up there but i mean think of it this way if this was a hundred percent screen phone i think apple
⏹️ ▶️ John will and should continue to have all that info to your phone but they would never choose
⏹️ ▶️ John to make it a hundred percent black the only reason they make that choice is to hide the censor away and if you remove
⏹️ ▶️ John the sensor way they can make different choices and i think they should make different choices to
⏹️ ▶️ John change what we would know you know the status bar area to be more in keeping with the
⏹️ ▶️ John rest of the design of the u s and until they can get to that point i would prefer that they not
⏹️ ▶️ John put things into make things part of the dynamic island that have no reason to be because they don’t involve
⏹️ ▶️ John like extra status information the top of your phone like the you know even just in terms of like face id i would prefer
⏹️ ▶️ John to see it more centered on my phone more centered on the top half of my phone rather than coming from the very
⏹️ ▶️ John very tippy top like it does now because it has to be the has to expand to the dynamic island and this you know not
⏹️ ▶️ John a complaint i think the dynamic island’s great i like it better than the notch the extra information is useful it’s all good
⏹️ ▶️ John it’s all it’s is a net improvement it’s just this one little part of it that doesn’t appeal to me personally
⏹️ ▶️ John that i feel like i would prefer if they make a different choice when they can in the future
⏹️ ▶️ Casey you see i don’t have any of those problems i’m not saying you’re wrong but
⏹️ ▶️ Casey this has never bothered me and i just looked at it again and it still doesn’t bother me even with my eyes opened i’m again
⏹️ ▶️ Casey not trying to say it wrong but it just does not bother me at all
⏹️ ▶️ John it’s just like an astec choice like it’s just it it doesn’t look as nice to me and it’s the miners
⏹️ ▶️ John of most monarchs are would never trade it back for the notch purely because of the extra info and you ye that
⏹️ ▶️ John goes on up there like it is a hundred percent a net win is just i was surprised at how much it bothered me for
⏹️ ▶️ John this black hole to be opening and closing on my phone
⏹️ ▶️ Casey yeah cameras i haven’t had too much time to take
⏹️ ▶️ Casey any pictures with the i should say i haven’t had the occasion to take many pictures with cameras
⏹️ ▶️ Casey it seemed good so far i don’t really have too much more to say about that i very very briefly
⏹️ ▶️ Casey played with today’s haylie update i think it was today where they added
⏹️ ▶️ Casey a toggle a kind of fast toggle to go between forty eight megapixel
⏹️ ▶️ Casey and you know the standard twelve next megapixel bind and i’ve i’ve played without the tiniest
⏹️ ▶️ Casey little bit i need to spend more time with it the size of the mesa is
⏹️ ▶️ Casey it’s big i don’t find it too offensive coming from the thirteen pro but i
⏹️ ▶️ Casey got to imagine john you are probably disgusted coming from the twelve pro
⏹️ ▶️ John yeah so you know getting back to sort of my case thing like one of
⏹️ ▶️ John this has nothing to do with the particular the case but is the thing that i notice when i put my
⏹️ ▶️ John phone on the table now it’s it’s it’s on an angle i mean with the twelve to my phone is flat right and
⏹️ ▶️ John you know you’re like oh it’s not going to lay flat but i guess i didn’t really think through it like it’s not just like oh it’s like crooked
⏹️ ▶️ John or whatever it is it’s tilted it’s literally tilted all the time and it looks odd to me it looks
⏹️ ▶️ John like you know like my phone is about to stand up right it’s like oh come on come on with table like no it’s just resting
⏹️ ▶️ John on the camera housing there i’m sure i’ll get used to it it’s fine my use of the camera
⏹️ ▶️ John i’m enjoying having both two x and three x uh you know that’s i was i was
⏹️ ▶️ John afraid that i was going to be like oh i’ll never use the two x or i’ll be awkward to get to it i’ve already used the two eggs
⏹️ ▶️ John right and and i don’t in practice i don’t know especially it’s sunny out taking pictures outside i don’t notice the difference
⏹️ ▶️ John you know in terms of the crop and everything i took a few forty omega picks of raws i found out that
⏹️ ▶️ John the camera continues to not do well when it’s facing any anywhere remotely near the sun when the sun is at a low angle
⏹️ ▶️ John because it just totally washes out you know that’s just part of phone cameras but yeah it’s been working fine
⏹️ ▶️ John for me i don’t have any complaints about it other than obviously it’s its giant size this graph
⏹️ ▶️ John by ryan jones that he tweeted that shows the historical size of historical thickness
⏹️ ▶️ John of the phone and then overlaid on top of that the thickness of the mesa and the thickness of the turret that
⏹️ ▶️ John stick out of the mesa so three different colors the phone is blue the mesa is red and the turrets
⏹️ ▶️ John on top of the mesa are like pinkish and you can look at the progress and it’s you know it’s it’s what we
⏹️ ▶️ John all know the the phone got real thin real fast and then that camera mesa as grew
⏹️ ▶️ John and grew and grew and then the
⏹️ ▶️ John, Marco turrets grew and
⏹️ ▶️ John grew and grew and at this point the things that are sticking out of the back of the phone are
⏹️ ▶️ John more than half the thickness of the phone body i wouldn’t
⏹️ ▶️ John, Marco be surprised if
⏹️ ▶️ John current trends continue that eventually the thing that sticks out of the back of the phone is as thick as the phone
⏹️ ▶️ John itself if we don’t get to periscope camera soon that’s going to happen because they just want to
⏹️ ▶️ John keep making these cameras better and the sensors bigger and optically the only way out of that is periscope
⏹️ ▶️ John or just keep making the things taller um i’m reserving judgment of how much this is going
⏹️ ▶️ John to really affect my life until i get my various leather cases and see how i deal with them but already slipping
⏹️ ▶️ John this in and out of my pockets and everything it’s fine when you get used to it it’s fine like and
⏹️ ▶️ John you know and i mentioned when i had my twelve pro that when i used my wife my finger would always hit the lip on
⏹️ ▶️ John the what do you call in a little thing like the read the case has like a little wall around the camera mason and
⏹️ ▶️ John i make and my fingers hit it it’s true my fingers do hit it and now having used it for a few days i have actually
⏹️ ▶️ John started to use that as a way to to keep the slippery case from slipping out of my hand because now i can brace
⏹️ ▶️ John my finger against the bottom of
⏹️ ▶️ John camera thing and it keeps it from sliding again we’ll see how that happens with my you know the ones that look
⏹️ ▶️ John more like volcanoes in my leather cases so i’ll update that on things go but you know
⏹️ ▶️ John i wouldn’t trade it for the twelve pearl camera because i was already feeling camera inferiority
⏹️ ▶️ John i would constantly borrow my wife’s one to take a picture if we’re out for a walk together and now i don’t have to do that anymore so
⏹️ ▶️ Marco the only thing that it does definitely cause problems with that might be unexpected is that
⏹️ ▶️ Marco um the the ongoing problem in the first world
⏹️ ▶️ Marco where your phone makes a recognizable imprint in your jeans pocket
⏹️ ▶️ Marco now there is also a recognizable sub imprint of the camera mesa like like
⏹️ ▶️ Marco all summer i was wearing these like soft corduroy shorts and like the
⏹️ ▶️ Marco this thing just like the thirteen pro just like tore through like it has this
⏹️ ▶️ Marco massive imprint of its camera masa like in the short’s pocket area
⏹️ ▶️ Marco and this fourteen pro is going to be even more so in that way
⏹️ ▶️ John well you can always go against all good sense and people with no apple
⏹️ ▶️ John care and not face the screen towards your leg no that’s crazy i
⏹️ ▶️ John, Marco know but like
⏹️ ▶️ John it’s it’s out there as an option then what you get is a camera main imprint on your thigh
⏹️ ▶️ Marco one of the things before i
⏹️ ▶️ Marco, John forget as am
⏹️ ▶️ Marco looking at the camera man i got the white or silver whatever it’s called and
⏹️ ▶️ Marco it’s finally a decent white like and casey maybe this is your area of expertise
⏹️ ▶️ Marco it’s really like so you know previous the last few white phones or you know
⏹️ ▶️ Marco close to white phones have been kind of this like off white you know john would affectionately call them dishwater
⏹️ ▶️ Marco phones am starlight yeah right this starlight dishwater this is actually
⏹️ ▶️ Marco like you know it’s it’s a whitish silver like you know it’s in the same way like like
⏹️ ▶️ Marco many many watch faces like you know not appalachia many analog watch faces that you think are
⏹️ ▶️ Marco white are really silver and by the way if you get an actual white watch it’s
⏹️ ▶️ Marco really striking in person and i actually love real white watches they’re they’re pretty rare
⏹️ ▶️ Marco but uh you know this is definitely one of those like it’s white in the sense that it’s silver basically
⏹️ ▶️ Marco but it’s like a very it’s like a whitish coating of silver but it looks it looks pretty nice
⏹️ ▶️ Marco and that’s one of the reasons why i think i’m going to stick with clear cases again for this generation in addition to just
⏹️ ▶️ Marco plastic being a really good material for me practically speaking i’m in my in my you know waterborne
⏹️ ▶️ John like apple could combine that if i it ever wanted to do you remember the white five sa i thought that was that
⏹️ ▶️ Marco yet it did the white i see i think was the best looking five see it just happened to be why
⏹️ ▶️ John you have the protection of rigidity and lightness of plastic and pure white color and you don’t need a case
⏹️ ▶️ Marco yeah and and like you know my my case to set up here with the apple clear case and the white new white
⏹️ ▶️ Marco phone is you know maybe i wouldn’t say necessarily reminiscent of that in the sense that it
⏹️ ▶️ Marco doesn’t look like a storm trooper or anything like that but it is it has a lot of the same nice qualities of that so i
⏹️ ▶️ Marco, John really really like
⏹️ ▶️ John it if you get the downside of being a display area for all of the dust and crumbs that will eventually find their way in
⏹️ ▶️ Marco there yeah they will i mean there’s already some on the side bands and you know i just put out to the only the thing is that the
⏹️ ▶️ Marco when you have the white phone the blackness of those three
⏹️ ▶️ Marco giant camera lenses really stands out and so you kind of have to embrace like this is not
⏹️ ▶️ Marco going to look like you know a white object this is like a light silver object with some very high
⏹️ ▶️ Marco contrast black holes in it but otherwise you know so that it has
⏹️ ▶️ Marco that you know kind of downside but overall i still like to look a lot and i still prefer it to the other colors
⏹️ ▶️ Marco and i still wish they would have more fun colors
⏹️ ▶️ Casey yeah i would agree with the fun colors thing the paste warning apparently is a bug i
⏹️ ▶️ Casey definitely have seen this it’s definitely been frustrating but somebody wrote to federici and he replied
⏹️ ▶️ Casey which of course got broadcast to the entire world that it is indeed a bug it will be fixed at some point
⏹️ ▶️ Casey that still going on in sixteen point one marco
⏹️ ▶️ Marco um i don’t think so
⏹️ ▶️ John i saw it so much i thought it had to be a bug i think i was like copying past within the same map and i was getting
⏹️ ▶️ John this can’t be intended behaviour and sure enough it’s a bug please fix this soon because i’m sick of that dialogue
Apple Watch Series 8
⏹️ ▶️ Casey talk about the apple watch i have received my series eight apple watch i got the small
⏹️ ▶️ Casey one the forty one forty one millimeter i got it with a way too large which is entirely
⏹️ ▶️ Casey my own fault a solo loop which i will need to figure out what it’s like to exchange that
⏹️ ▶️ Casey music but hopefully because i remember originally had to return the whole damn watch which was not
⏹️ ▶️ Casey fun but anyways that that’s that’s on me that’s entirely on me but i got this new apple
⏹️ ▶️ Casey watch i’m coming from a series six which i believe is forty millimeters if i’m not mistaken
⏹️ ▶️ Casey forget exactly what it was now um this thing doesn’t sit any different on my wrist as compared
⏹️ ▶️ Casey to the series six but immediately my first reaction was wholly crap the screen is huge
⏹️ ▶️ Casey because it goes way further to the edges and i feel like you can fit
⏹️ ▶️ Casey so much more stuff on here that’s probably not actually true i bet the difference is not as big as i think
⏹️ ▶️ Casey, Marco no it’s it’s a big difference
⏹️ ▶️ Marco the okay the the new forty one from the series seven and series eight is
⏹️ ▶️ Marco much closer to the old big watches than you think the new big watches of course are even bigger
⏹️ ▶️ Marco but yet you end up with quite a lot of screen space and it makes a big difference and actually it’s a it’s a
⏹️ ▶️ Marco big enough difference that the series seven and eight you know forty one millimeter ones also
⏹️ ▶️ Marco have the little tiny always the little tiny on screen keyboard that you can occasionally
⏹️ ▶️ Marco need to type in your apple id you pass it on when that whole thing bugs
⏹️ ▶️ Casey out fair um so yeah the screen is bigger it doesn’t feel much
⏹️ ▶️ Casey faster or different or anything like that in terms of hardware but i will say i don’t think
⏹️ ▶️ Casey the haptic engine or you know the haptic feedback is as strong as my old one was the
⏹️ ▶️ Casey same materials i thought they were they were both aluminum the other one’s two years old now i genuinely feel
⏹️ ▶️ Casey like this one is weaker particularly when using the crown i don’t know if that’s like a hardware difference a software
⏹️ ▶️ Casey difference a little comma little combe but that is a little bit frustrating but other
⏹️ ▶️ Casey than that so far so good i really like it we ordered both of ours both aaron and myself
⏹️ ▶️ Casey at the same time i don’t know maybe fifteen minutes after the keynote ended mine is here
⏹️ ▶️ Casey aaron got a pink i forget what the actual color is but pink solo loop instead of a blue one
⏹️ ▶️ Casey like i got and hers hasn’t even shipped yet and i don’t really get why like it’s fine whatever
⏹️ ▶️ Casey it’s not a big deal but that’s very very curious to me because they’re the exact same hardware just with a different band around
⏹️ ▶️ Casey it i guess there’s something about that band that made it ship slower but that that
⏹️ ▶️ Casey strikes me as a little funny but so far so good it’s a nice watch i don’t think it’s a critical update
⏹️ ▶️ Casey for anyone that has a series seven which i think both maybe it’s just mark one or both of you guys said
⏹️ ▶️ Casey last time and it wasn’t even a critical update from the six but for battery life alone it’s
⏹️ ▶️ Casey nice to have a nice fresh battery again but yeah so far so good that’s basically all i have to say about that
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Car-watch
⏹️ ▶️ Casey marco you want to tell me why your car has a watch
⏹️ ▶️ Marco um so yeah so you know i bought the refurb apple watch series six
⏹️ ▶️ Marco for my kid for discussion last week’s show that was not the only watch i ordered
⏹️ ▶️ Marco that week as you know i have a weird driving situation with this whole you know beach
⏹️ ▶️ Marco sand driving thing and one because you are driving on a beach
⏹️ ▶️ Marco that varies in width throughout the season and throughout different times of the day it is
⏹️ ▶️ Marco useful to know the tide level and when you will be at low
⏹️ ▶️ Marco tide when you will be at high tide and i have a number of
⏹️ ▶️ Marco different apps on my phone that can track tides none of them do a great job of it in
⏹️ ▶️ Marco various ways and i’m actually probably going to write my own little custom thing just to track like
⏹️ ▶️ Marco my title stations just to make it a little bit easier i can do it like you know my way that i actually need
⏹️ ▶️ Marco but that you know until i get that done i’m like all right well i’m now starting
⏹️ ▶️ Marco to drive on the sand at one two sand drives in the defender and
⏹️ ▶️ Marco first of all oh my god it’s good at it it is so good
⏹️ ▶️ Marco at it like it’s even it’s way better than the f j and the f j was really good at it like
⏹️ ▶️ Marco i can’t believe how easy it is to drive on the sand in this thing i have to
⏹️ ▶️ Marco do nothing i have to all i do is tell it to go to sand mode and it
⏹️ ▶️ Marco lifts it lifts itself up even higher to its like maximum you know suspension height with the air suspension
⏹️ ▶️ Marco and it is so far off the ground is hilarious and it just flies over
⏹️ ▶️ Marco the sand i can jump in and out of the tracks like oh that track over there looks better let me
⏹️ ▶️ Marco let me just turn out of these deep ruts of men and just go right out of them go right into the other ones like
⏹️ ▶️ Marco i can’t believe how good it is how easy it makes everything it’s fantastic so
⏹️ ▶️ Marco far anyway so i do have this need you know you got to know where you know
⏹️ ▶️ Marco when the tides are because at certain times of year the beach gets more narrow with different you know storm and wave
⏹️ ▶️ Marco patterns and there’s you can go two different ways you can go the kind of interior
⏹️ ▶️ Marco roadway which has you know some loose sand sections but is mostly going through like all
⏹️ ▶️ Marco little tiny towns and so it’s it’s slower but it doesn’t involve like the actual
⏹️ ▶️ Marco shoreline or you can go on the beach itself but then you are you know at
⏹️ ▶️ Marco the whims of the waves and you don’t want to go anywhere near them of course so you know you want to stay in the dry area
⏹️ ▶️ Marco but you gotta know anyway so if you were in like you know storm season which is now
⏹️ ▶️ Marco and it was high tide you might not you might decide to take the interior out and not go
⏹️ ▶️ Marco on the beach so it’s very useful for me to know when i’m driving is it high tide or low tide right
⏹️ ▶️ Marco now and and you know in the near future when will that be so
⏹️ ▶️ Marco i said you know let me let me start looking at like you know lock screen widgets different widget apps on
⏹️ ▶️ Marco my phone watch complications to try to figure out how can i most
⏹️ ▶️ Marco easily have the tide displayed to me in a way that is relevant and useful and reliable
⏹️ ▶️ Marco and accurate and i just have been hitting walls like with with the
⏹️ ▶️ Marco ap selection they’re they’re bad they’re like every tide app is bad even otherwise
⏹️ ▶️ Marco good aps that have tide features are not great for what for what i’m going for
⏹️ ▶️ Marco some of them are reliable and they have the in need but i don’t like the way it’s presented some of them
⏹️ ▶️ Marco are designed by somebody who’s never used a tide need before and so
⏹️ ▶️ Marco it’ll do things like not allow a second location to be set for which title station you’re
⏹️ ▶️ Marco pulling from it’ll just pull it from the nearest title station well if you live near a few bodies of water the nearest
⏹️ ▶️ Marco house station might be like in the wrong one and so like i don’t need to know the tide
⏹️ ▶️ Marco in the bay and you know the tide in the ocean
⏹️ ▶️ John and are you getting to why you think a watch of solving this problem have you considered what they used
⏹️ ▶️ John to use back in the olden days before we had smartphones just get a tide table and a piece of paper
⏹️ ▶️ John and stick it in your car and that had
⏹️ ▶️ Marco noble they’re not random i have that they give you that with drug permit but but the thing is
⏹️ ▶️ Marco the the problem with the tie table is that you have to get it out and look at it and not read it wrong
⏹️ ▶️ John it to your dashboard it’s it’s a huge sheet of paper all right all right i mean i
⏹️ ▶️ John understand the technology has some advantages but as you rattle off all the ways that people are screwing this up it’s like a tide
⏹️ ▶️ John table solves this problem but anyway continue so
⏹️ ▶️ Marco i had this crazy idea because the defender
⏹️ ▶️ Marco and by the way i love i’m really growing to love many details of it the interior
⏹️ ▶️ Marco is it was really weird at first but i’m starting to learn like oh this is designed in
⏹️ ▶️ Marco the same way that we are that we’ve praised apple for designing the new mac pa pro and the apple watch
⏹️ ▶️ Marco ultra in ways that maybe like don’t look the prettiest as they could be but are highly
⏹️ ▶️ Marco functional and clearly designed with like user feedback taken into exhilaration and like designed
⏹️ ▶️ Marco to be functioned first that’s how the defender is like the interior of it like i keep i keep
⏹️ ▶️ Marco discovering little details as i use it more as i use it for things like off roading you know that i’m seeing
⏹️ ▶️ Marco like oh this is why this is this way and oh that’s easy and that’s convenient like i just know i just learned
⏹️ ▶️ Marco today that the um it has those cool a windshield washer jets that are in
⏹️ ▶️ Marco the wipers so it doesn’t spray the whole windshield from his little dots on the hood
⏹️ ▶️ Marco first and then wipe across it sprays from the like attachment point of
⏹️ ▶️ Marco the blade to the arm and so it basically sprays right in front of the wiper
⏹️ ▶️ Marco as it’s going so it doesn’t splatter all over the place it
⏹️ ▶️ John wants to make one more thing when it’s easy to break well
⏹️ ▶️ Casey all you know you are such a pessimist uh no that’s
⏹️ ▶️ Casey, John just what i’m saying
⏹️ ▶️ John he’s going to buy this british car who’s gonna break all the time and i’m like oh overcomplicated wiper blades i’m sure
⏹️ ▶️ John those won’t break it
⏹️ ▶️ John, Casey that makes away the
⏹️ ▶️ Casey car that’ll be fine because the volvo has the same overcomplicated wiper blades and it’s been no problem
⏹️ ▶️ Casey the air suspension that he mentioned earlier that’s what’s going to fail and spal spec fails spectacularly
⏹️ ▶️ Casey any minute now cool
⏹️ ▶️ John any minute come on i mean it’s a brand new car it’ll be fine it’s
⏹️ ▶️ Marco it’s almost two years old
⏹️ ▶️ Marco, John anyway so i give i give you a
⏹️ ▶️ John good five years where nothing will break in that car and then it will be downhill
⏹️ ▶️ Marco yeah that’s that’s when i’ll get rid of it anyway so i’m so far
⏹️ ▶️ Marco i’m loving this thing but anyway so going back to i wanted a way to display the tides
⏹️ ▶️ Marco reliably and i was having no luck doing that on my lock screen on my phone and you know
⏹️ ▶️ Marco i thought you know but wouldn’t it be great if i had like a tide clock in the car like
⏹️ ▶️ Marco they make things called tide clocks that you know cause it’s the way you calculate tides
⏹️ ▶️ Marco is there’s a whole bunch of like overlapping factors but you can basically pre compute them
⏹️ ▶️ Marco for a while i headed into the future with fairly low error rates that’s why you can get like a tide table printed
⏹️ ▶️ Marco out for the whole year in advance this information there’s a api’s like on noah they’re all free like you can
⏹️ ▶️ Marco just go to noah’s site they even tell you like you can view a pig with a tide station data and
⏹️ ▶️ Marco it’ll tell you like what i call you can make to get this exact same data that we’re showing on this
⏹️ ▶️ Marco pig’s way you’ve set it up like it’s very friendly to all that stuff that the data is out there and you can pre compute it ahead of time so
⏹️ ▶️ Marco this is again why i like you know a widget or something makes perfect sense but i thought
⏹️ ▶️ Marco you know i learned a little while ago about a g shock
⏹️ ▶️ Marco model i saw it like on like a japanese import page and most gee
⏹️ ▶️ Marco shocks don’t have tied information but they make one that does and all the reviews were like well i don’t really need the tide
⏹️ ▶️ Marco information but i guess you know the rest of the watch is cool and i’m like wait a minute i need only
⏹️ ▶️ Marco the tide information and so an amazon had it on
⏹️ ▶️ Marco sale for like a hundred ten dollars and the defender’s dashboard
⏹️ ▶️ Marco has this section above the glove box where it’s basically like a like a bar
⏹️ ▶️ Marco that’s about the size of a wrist with like handles behind it you see the passenger
⏹️ ▶️ Marco can grab on to that if you’re like you know sideways on you know a trail somewhere and so
⏹️ ▶️ Marco here here’s a picture so i got this thing and i attached it to this little
⏹️ ▶️ Marco section above the glove box in the dash it has this like highly visible um mip lcd
⏹️ ▶️ Marco thing and it is perfect i now have a tide clock
⏹️ ▶️ Marco basically on my dashboard it’s so i can always glance and see
⏹️ ▶️ Marco where where is the tide right now and it doesn’t require like anything for me
⏹️ ▶️ Marco i had to pair it with my phone over bluetooth watches do bluetooth now um just
⏹️ ▶️ Marco like to set which tide station i was using like cause it’s you know the obscure one that no one else uses so
⏹️ ▶️ Marco i had to set that with the with the bluetooth paring but then once it’s set it’s done and i have to replace the
⏹️ ▶️ Marco batter like every two years and that’s it and it’s just it’s this great like cool little appliance
⏹️ ▶️ Marco that happens to fit perfectly on my dashboard and now i have a tide clock in my car
⏹️ ▶️ John but highly visible do you need your reading glasses to see this thing there are some small numbers
⏹️ ▶️ Marco mean it’s small i mean first of all for a watch like i tried it on first because i’ve never owned a shock
⏹️ ▶️ Marco before this my god it’s massive like it’s and
⏹️ ▶️ Marco, John it’s not in front
⏹️ ▶️ John of you it’s it’s in front of the passenger kind of and it’s near the center council i guess
⏹️ ▶️ Marco yeah it’s near the middle but yet it’s there there was no like loop through handle section like that near the driver
⏹️ ▶️ Marco but i put it over there and it’s fine because you know all you need to know is is it high tide or low tide or you know is it going
⏹️ ▶️ Marco in or coming out i can i can just quickly glance and see that even from the driver’s seat very very easily and
⏹️ ▶️ Marco it’s a little hard to photograph these these like mip lcd screens but
⏹️ ▶️ Marco they are extremely visible like it’s you know how like the playdate
⏹️ ▶️ Marco looks really good from one angle or like one light angle hitting it
⏹️ ▶️ John no i don’t know that i don’t try to rub it in i just
⏹️ ▶️ John got an email that actually i do i’ve used it in real life before but anyway mine is actually shipping soon but i don’t have it yet
⏹️ ▶️ Marco anyway the ah so this thing like it it is
⏹️ ▶️ Marco like that from lots of angles with lots of light hitting it so far like i only had it on
⏹️ ▶️ Marco today for the whole drive back today so i’ve only had you know one day of experience with it but that one day that covered
⏹️ ▶️ Marco like you know bright sun all the way into sunset and it was great so
⏹️ ▶️ Marco i’m very impressed with this this weird lcd technology if for some reason i
⏹️ ▶️ Marco would ever go back to wearing this kind of watch i would want one with this kind of screen like
⏹️ ▶️ Marco it’s it’s that good of a screen this model is comically large on me and i really
⏹️ ▶️ Marco can’t wear it but but otherwise like for for the reason i got
⏹️ ▶️ Marco it it’s perfect it’s like it’s a wonderful like fairly low tech
⏹️ ▶️ Marco solution to this problem and it does it extremely well and you know it happens to fit my dashboard
⏹️ ▶️ Marco it i’m just i’m delighted by how stupidly awesome this is